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re: Louisiana is trying to get rid of the death penalty
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
I just feel the need to repeat.
I personally find the idea of the death penalty COMPLETELY at odds with the tenets of conservatism.
To me, this is one issue that the parties have completely flipped.
I personally find the idea of the death penalty COMPLETELY at odds with the tenets of conservatism.
To me, this is one issue that the parties have completely flipped.
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:40 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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There have been three (3) executions in LA since 2000 (inclusive)
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:42 pm to NYNolaguy1
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We should make it easier to kill any citizens the state dictates.
Absolutely.
Put them in an express line to the chair.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:44 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
The reason there have only been three is a combination of an 8th amendment case on lethal injection and companies blocking the state from obtaining the drugs used for the process.
Solution? Bring back hanging and the firing squad, as both are still on the books in some states such as Utah and Delaware.
Solution? Bring back hanging and the firing squad, as both are still on the books in some states such as Utah and Delaware.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:44 pm to pwejr88
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Absolutely.
Put them in an express line to the chair.
This viewpoint has been shared before, but not by small govt republicans
Beria was a communist and #2 to Stalin- until getting executed under false charges himself .Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:46 pm to teke184
Are any of my fellow conservatives going to address for me why they rightly recognize the USG can't be trusted to do a whole host of things efficiently OR accurately.......but we trust the USG COMBINED with the vagaries of US Judges and an idiot electorate to make the call on killing someone?
And, even assuming they never erred(fantasy), that we trust them to do it in anything but a completely haphazard way?
On what planet does that align with conservatism?
And, even assuming they never erred(fantasy), that we trust them to do it in anything but a completely haphazard way?
On what planet does that align with conservatism?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:46 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
Getting rid of the death penalty won’t save any money.
It will just transfer all the legal spending on death cases to trying to uphold LWOP cases as lawyers and judges keep throwing shite against the wall to let human garbage back out into society.
It will just transfer all the legal spending on death cases to trying to uphold LWOP cases as lawyers and judges keep throwing shite against the wall to let human garbage back out into society.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:46 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I always find it interesting that so many "small govt conservatives" who trust the govt extremely little and assume it full of paid idiots, suddenly has full faith that this same govt will always execute only the guilty.
I’m an authoritarian Trump supporter.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:47 pm to teke184
quote:The money argument against the death penalty is shite.
Getting rid of the death penalty won’t save any money.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:48 pm to ShortyRob
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I personally find the idea of the death penalty COMPLETELY at odds with the tenets of conservatism.
Yep. Granting the ultimate penalty to the state is anti-conservative at it's core.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:48 pm to ShortyRob
Ok, get rid of the death penalty. LWOP becomes the new battleground and I would guess that vigilantism picks up as people decide to just handle matters on their own if a judge will let a scumbag off on a technicality.
Don’t make me say a certain poster’s name and make him appear but his father would probably become more of a folk hero.
Don’t make me say a certain poster’s name and make him appear but his father would probably become more of a folk hero.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:49 pm to The Boat
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authoritarian Trump supporter.
Thats unfortunate. He claims to like the constitution.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:49 pm to ShortyRob
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I just feel the need to repeat.
I personally find the idea of the death penalty COMPLETELY at odds with the tenets of conservatism.
To me, this is one issue that the parties have completely flipped.
Historically 'judicial conservatives' would disagree with you, Justice Scalia being one of them.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:49 pm to glassman
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Yep. Granting the ultimate penalty to the state is anti-conservative at it's core.
It's funny because in a rational world, liberals would be assuring us that the government could be trusted with the death penalty and conservatives would be like, "the frick it can!!!"
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:50 pm to The Boat
Knowing what I know about the miscreants who run the district attorney's office in Jefferson Parish doing away with the death penalty is a step forward for the state.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:50 pm to JoeBock
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Historically 'judicial conservatives' would disagree with you, Justice Scalia being one of them.
Good for him.
I simply don't know how one can say "government can't be trusted to get things right most of the time..........but oh, we should have the death penalty".
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:51 pm to ShortyRob
I have been against the death penalty for years. It doesn't detour crime, the trials are ripe with cronyism, we can't trust the state agencies to balance the budget but we trust them with putting someone to death?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:52 pm to teke184
quote:Well, I mean, if the dude is getting out so that people can take a crack at him, then he probably wasn't gonna get the death penalty anyway.
Ok, get rid of the death penalty. LWOP becomes the new battleground and I would guess that vigilantism picks up as people decide to just handle matters on their own if a judge will let a scumbag off on a technicality.
Just sayin.......
By the way. I know the poster you're referring to.
I 100% support what dad did(by support I mean......totally understand it and wouldn't charge him).
No, that's not contradictory.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:52 pm to ShortyRob
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"the frick it can!!!"
The only way a human life should be taken is in self defense or during war. Neither the state via execution or a doctor who performs an abortion should be able to take a life.
The Catholic Church and I share the same view.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:53 pm to kingbob
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There's also a major national shortage of lethal injection drugs.
Oh? I didn't realize there was an ammo shortage...
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