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Let's be real for a minute, everyone knows that universal healthcare isn't free.

Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:55 am
Posted by GeauxPhillies26
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2014
167 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:55 am
It's subsidized by taxes that all citizens contribute to help one another. Nothing is free. What it really comes down to is the fact that Republicans and Conservatives are just selfish and cruel. They have a "frick you, I got mine" attitude and can't be bothered to help the little man. They might use the excuse "well, we don't have the money for it." Yet, have no problem whatsoever spending trillions on endless wars in the Middle East.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:58 am to
What a simplistic stupid comment
Posted by GeauxPhillies26
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2014
167 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:58 am to
I absolutely wouldn't mind paying $5/$10 out of my paycheck if it meant that I didn't have to worry about starting a GoFundMe account if I ever get seriously sick or hell, even have to cover the cost of an ambulance ride.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 5:01 am
Posted by GeauxPhillies26
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2014
167 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:58 am to
I'm not wrong.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:59 am to
0/10
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
508 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:05 am to
Nice early morning "muh healthcare" Melt to start the poliboard's day.

Thanks cuck
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:08 am to
What a childlike rationale.

FAT PERSON - I already blew my diet by eating a cheeseburger, I may as well have ice cream, too

BANKRUPT PERSON- I bought a new truck that I can’t afford, I might as well get a new boat to pull behind it.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:10 am to
quote:

They might use the excuse "well, we don't have the money for it." Yet, have no problem whatsoever spending trillions on endless wars in the Middle East.



The wars in the mideast has cost us just a little under 2.5 trillion for nearly twenty years. LINK

Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years. LINK

Those are numbers that has been confirmed by nonpartisan studies.

Yes, we literally cannot afford universal healthcare.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:11 am to
quote:


It's subsidized by taxes that all citizens contribute to help one another. Nothing is free. What it really comes down to is the fact that Republicans and Conservatives are just selfish and cruel

Oh look. Another liberal who thinks that they aren't selfish because they're willing to spend my money to help somebody else or themselves. Why do you stupid fricks thank who you vote for is a measure of caring? Let me ask you a question. Are you helping somebody right now pay for their medical bills? If not why not? Are you a selfish bastard?

quote:

They have a "frick you, I got mine" attitude and can't be bothered to help the little man
I donate my time and money all the time. In fact I do so at a rate substantially higher then your typical liberal so frick you.

The only difference between liberals and conservatives on this one is that I want to be able to help based on what I want to help and you want to force me to help in accordance with your wishes. As per usual I like freedom and you don't

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:13 am to
quote:

solutely wouldn't mind paying $5/$10 out of my paycheck if it meant that I didn't have to worry about starting a GoFundMe account if I ever get seriously sick or hell, even have to cover the cost of an ambulance ride.

ROFLMAO

So you are willing to pay for a tiny fraction of what it costs to insure you in return for full insurance? Well how magnanimous of you
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:14 am to
quote:


Yes, we literally cannot afford universal healthcare

But he's willing to spend five or $10 out of each paycheck! LOL
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124045 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:22 am to
quote:

Republicans and Conservatives are just selfish and cruel
Facts notwithstanding?

How much do you donate to the cause of indigent healthcare each year?
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1633 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:23 am to
$5-$10 a paycheck? So that’s $60-$120 a year. Of course you wouldn’t mind. And here in lies the problem, your understanding of what things cost is a little off.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124045 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:34 am to
quote:

I absolutely wouldn't mind paying $5/$10 out of my paycheck if it meant that I didn't have to worry about starting a GoFundMe account if I ever get seriously sick
quote:

I'm not wrong.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45328 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:36 am to
quote:

They might use the excuse "well, we don't have the money for it." Yet, have no problem whatsoever spending trillions on endless wars in the Middle East.

I don’t like that either and no we don’t have the money for that either.

Charging everything on a credit card doesn’t mean you have money.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21459 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:40 am to
Democrats mostly do not pay taxes on income. So they consider it free.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17713 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:46 am to
Liberals demand taxpayers pay for their healthcare, and you think it’s conservatives who are selfish.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 5:48 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:51 am to
You are an idiot.

Go live in Russia.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5716 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:54 am to
quote:

I absolutely wouldn't mind paying $5/$10 out of my paycheck
It's gonna take a lot more than that.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25737 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:54 am to
quote:

Universal healthcare would cost us 32 trillion for ten years. LINK


While I am not arguing Medicare for All is "affordable" or politically possible even if it was affordable I think that number is significantly disingenuous. Even assuming that is the accurate cost it does not go the next step and reduce that amount by the total (or a significant portion) of the private health insurance payments currently made.

The actual "cost" is significantly more complex when you consider the above, along with the costs the government pays now, the economic impact of moving the majority of health insurance from the private to the public sector, the economic impact of potentially a more healthy workforce along with the hopefully lower cost of treating people who can seek earlier care and prevention.

I would love to see a true number for the additional cost or savings to the country as a whole for Medicare for All but complex economic numbers like this are never accurate.
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