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re: Klitschko Urges Ukrainian Parliament for Full Mobilization
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:51 am to TigerPride10
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:51 am to TigerPride10
quote:Are you really this much out of the loop about what's been happening there? Seriously? this was from an article published YESTERDAY.
and unidentified "Russian sympathizers" in Crimea taking over an airport, right?
quote:LINK
More than 10 Russian military helicopters flew over Crimea and Russian servicemen blockaded a unit of the Ukrainian border guard in the port city of Sevastopol, the guard said.
Also from yesterday morning...
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SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine -- Armed men described as Russian troops took control of key airports in Crimea
As to the rest of your diatribe, I didn't read it. Waste of time.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 11:55 am
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:53 am to TWD7105
I just don't see NATO getting involved in this.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:53 am to RollTide1987
quote:Agreed.
Let me rephrase. If they wanted to, they could request for them to leave the area. Russia would never go unless made to by force. But, let's face it, the Ukraine does not have the military resources to force Russia out of Sevastopol.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:54 am to RollTide1987
The Baltics, Romania, or Poland would have to get involved first. None of them care to be dominated by Russia. And all are NATO members.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:55 am to TWD7105
quote:The Baltics are next to go down to Russia.
The Baltics, Romania, or Poland would have to get involved.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:55 am to LSURussian
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and unidentified "Russian sympathizers" in Crimea taking over an airport, right?
Are you really this much out of the loop about what's been happening there? Seriously? this was from an article published YESTERDAY.
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More than 10 Russian military helicopters flew over Crimea and Russian servicemen blockaded a unit of the Ukrainian border guard in the port city of Sevastopol, the guard said.
LINK
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What, in your opinion, constitutes a full-scale invasion?
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As to the rest of your diatribe, I didn't read it. Waste of time.
Of course not. Completely misunderstand something, post credentials without prompt in an attempt to make yourself an authority, and then when called out for a being a self-conscious twit, feign ignorance. That's the LSURussian we know and don't really care for on Tigerdroppings.This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:57 am to LSURussian
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The Baltics are next to go down to Russia.
Then you have war, Putin so much as launches a bottle rocket at them they can activate Article 5 of the NATO charter.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:58 am to LSURussian
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The Baltics are next to go down to Russia.
Some little document called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization disagrees.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:58 am to TigerPride10
quote:What does that have to do with your previous erroneous comment that it was not Russian military personnel taking over the airports in the Crimea? Is your question just another of your diversions?
What, in your opinion, constitutes a full-scale invasion?
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:03 pm to TigerPride10
quote:Irrelevant. For NATO to act against Russia, it will take the approval of and assistance from the U.S.
Some little document called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization disagrees.
Obama has proven he is Putin's bitch. Obama will just hold another press conference to express his concerns.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:07 pm to LSURussian
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Irrelevant. For NATO to act against Russia, it will take the approval of and assistance from the U.S.
Does the US get two votes? I must have missed that article.
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The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
An attack on Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or any other member nation is legally considered an attack on the United States.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:15 pm to TWD7105
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Then you have war, Putin so much as launches a bottle rocket at them they can activate Article 5 of the NATO charter.
They are feisty people to begin with and don't like Russians what so ever. That would be a messy conflict.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:39 pm to LSURussian
I know that you are more knowledgeable about the area than most, and I know that the Ukraine is own its own and likely done for, but I cant see Russia going into the others. It would force a response from Nato.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:39 pm to TigerPride10
With the way this administration has treated Russia as a lesser nation, I don't see the NATO pact surviving.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:44 pm to TigerPride10
quote:Ignorance on display. France couldn't even fly relief supplies and peacekeeping troops to the Central African Republic without asking the U.S. to provide refueling tankers and troop transports.
Does the US get two votes? I must have missed that article.
quote:That's just sooooo sweet of you. Obama won't even abide by the U.S. constitution. What makes you think he gives a flying flip about abiding by a foreign treaty???
An attack on Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or any other member nation is legally considered an attack on the United States.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:48 pm to LSURussian
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rrelevant. For NATO to act against Russia, it will take the approval of and assistance from the U.S.
Obama has proven he is Putin's bitch. Obama will just hold another press conference to express his concerns.
while Obama has proven time and time again IF (and that is a very big and important if) any of the NATO countries get involved the I would think Obama's hand would be tied by the pressure. We might not have to aid militarily because like others have said Ukraine, Poland, Romania have a strong enough force to stand up to the Russian military.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:50 pm to LSURussian
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Ignorance on display. France couldn't even fly relief supplies and peacekeeping troops to the Central African Republic without asking the U.S. to provide refueling tankers and troop transports.
France has a large base in Chad just north if CAR so I don't think this is true. The us is likely providing support so they can claim relevancy in the region.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:54 pm to LSURussian
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Irrelevant. For NATO to act against Russia, it will take the approval of and assistance from the U.S.
Obama has proven he is Putin's bitch. Obama will just hold another press conference to express his concerns.
Have you booked your flight to Kiev yet?
You are so worried what happens there I am sure you intend to defend the country from the Russians.
Not one American combat boot needs to be on the ground.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:54 pm to C
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This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:50 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:55 pm to LSURussian
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That's just sooooo sweet of you. Obama won't even abide by the U.S. constitution. What makes you think he gives a flying flip about abiding by a foreign treaty???
And now you show your true intent. Another Bash obama thread.
shame on you.
If a Nato country is attacked. We will defend it. It's a simple as that.
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