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re: Joe Mcknight's shooter, Ronald Gasser, released from custody
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:45 pm to L.A.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:45 pm to L.A.
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Eyewitnesses say he stood over McKnight and fired into his body after he was already down and said "I told you not to frick with me
They burned down a town over "hands up, don't shoot" and they still use it today after the Obama DOJ proved it to be a lie
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:50 pm to L.A.
If there is evidence of some sort of physical altercation prior to McKnight getting shot then that could provide Gasser the legal recourse to shoot him bc he "feared for his life".
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:51 pm to L.A.
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unarmed man point blank in a road rage incident
That it's due to "road rage" isn't relevant once a fight begins.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:54 pm to L.A.
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Eyewitnesses say he stood over McKnight and fired into his body after he was already down and said "I told you not to frick with me."
Eyewitnesses aren't reliable. Video is more helpful.
also, "I told you not to f with me" isn't necessarily as damning as it seems.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:56 pm to MrLarson
quote:Good point.
They burned down a town over "hands up, don't shoot" and they still use it today after the Obama DOJ proved it to be a lie
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:00 pm to uway
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That it's due to "road rage" isn't relevant once a fight begins.
In my state, it is very relevant. Specifically, if it involves the forceful entry into a vehicle.
A person may use deadly physical force, and is legally presumed to be justified in using deadly physical force in self-defense or the defense of another person pursuant to subdivision (4), if the person reasonably believes that another person is: ...
(5) In the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered, a dwelling, residence, business property, or occupied vehicle,...
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:02 pm to L.A.
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Eyewitnesses say he stood over McKnight and fired into his body after he was already down and said "I told you not to frick with me."
This warrants the charge
you can try the self defense game until you get to this point imho
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:03 pm to thelawnwranglers
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This warrants the charge
Not if the eyewitnesses are full of $hit.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:11 pm to Five0
Yeah, not saying this guy don't need to be thrown under the jail, but the eyewitness testimony on the Brown(initially) and the Scott case was all proven false, by both video and other eyewitness testimony, so going to have to wait on the facts here...,
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:01 pm to CamdenTiger
I watched the press conference.
All 3 shots taken from inside the shooters vehicle. Did not stand over McKnight and shoot him, nor make any statement as reported.
This according to Sheriff.
No video is known to exist of incident.
All 3 shots taken from inside the shooters vehicle. Did not stand over McKnight and shoot him, nor make any statement as reported.
This according to Sheriff.
No video is known to exist of incident.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:02 pm to Tiger4Liberty
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All 3 shots taken from inside the shooters vehicle.
I curious if he was attacked in his vehicle. If so, that is an attempted carjacking and he is in the clear in AL.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:09 pm to STEVED00
Would he fear for his life if he wasn't fighting a jacked young black man? If it was anyone else would the gun come out?
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:17 pm to chalmetteowl
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Would he fear for his life if he wasn't fighting a jacked young black man? If it was anyone else would the gun come out?
Race baiting AF! You suck.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:21 pm to chalmetteowl
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Would he fear for his life if he wasn't fighting a jacked young black man? If it was anyone else would the gun come out? This post was edited on 12/2 at 2:11 pm
Hypothetically speaking: do you wait to see what color someone is if they open your car door after a traffic incident before you decide if they mean harm?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:26 pm to the808bass
My gun wouldn't come out for someone I thought I could take without it...
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:26 pm to Douboy
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Race baiting
Is Joe McKnight black?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:28 pm to chalmetteowl
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Would he fear for his life if he wasn't fighting a jacked young black man? If it was anyone else would the gun come out?
Irrelevant legally speaking, mate.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:28 pm to the808bass
A couple of dummy posters openly said this was a hate crime in another thread yesterday.
No one knows the facts.
All we know is that McKnight was out of his car and was shot dead by this guy. And we have a single witness statement.
I can tell you as a former prosecutor eyewitness testimony is some of the most unreliable evidence possible. Why? Because people sometimes honestly get things wrong. They also lie sometimes.
We will have to wait until we know more. Until then, people are just spouting out of their asses.
No one knows the facts.
All we know is that McKnight was out of his car and was shot dead by this guy. And we have a single witness statement.
I can tell you as a former prosecutor eyewitness testimony is some of the most unreliable evidence possible. Why? Because people sometimes honestly get things wrong. They also lie sometimes.
We will have to wait until we know more. Until then, people are just spouting out of their asses.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:29 pm to Five0
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Is Joe McKnight black?
Black as a tire, but that is besides the point. Why can't the question be asked without bringing up race? Would the gun come out if it was a jacked young man? Would the gun come out if it was a woman? Would the gun come out if it were an old guy? It always has to be about the race.
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