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Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:05 pm to chalmetteowl
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sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot
That's the kind of attitude that gets you killed by an attacker. If someone reaches into my car with the intent of doing me harm, I'm shooting them. Of course, my windows would have never been down and my doors automatically lock, so the aggressor would have already broken my window in this scenario.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:06 pm to chalmetteowl
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I forgot in my post, UNARMED. So why does the gun come out?
We don't know.
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That should have ended things and no one would be dead.
We don't know that.
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Instead, he goes another step further and shoots it. That's where the line is crossed
We don't know that based on what we know. Maybe, maybe not.
You are entitled to use deadly force to protect yourself even if the other party does not have a gun.
And I don't know if the use of deadly force is justified here. Neither do you. You can't know based on the info we have.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:06 pm to TigerJeff
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I just want to make sure the Second Amendment is OK. Was it hurt? Can anyone confirm? Because that's all that really matters. The Second Amendment.
It could still be in danger. Can it join you in your safe space?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:08 pm to PsychTiger
I am guessing that most jurors would consider deadly force acceptable if you are a 54 year old man being pulled out of your vehicle by a 30yr old ex NFL player.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:12 pm to chalmetteowl
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot
This tells me you have no idea of the standards for self-defense, nor do you understand the standards for evaluation in justifying deadly force.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:16 pm to uway
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:18 pm to themunch
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But he did.
Oh, really?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:21 pm to The Baker
Not sure if already posted but typical flame fanning leftist article from the NY Post about this situation...
Full article
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The white man accused of gunning down ex-Jets running back Joe McKnight was released from police custody without charges — provoking rage from friends and family alike.
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McKnight, who authorities said was unarmed, was standing outside his car when Gasser pumped him with several bullets
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:23 pm to golfntiger32
Huh? If he were going to "pull him out of the vehicle," wouldn't he have gone to the driver's side, not passenger side?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:26 pm to PsychTiger
It can be buried in a coffin with the 30,000 other gun shot victims annually. We are sick.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:26 pm to themunch
Looks like
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:35 pm to Douboy
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Would the gun come out if it was a jacked young man?
Less information is better?
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Would the gun come out if it was a woman?
Is there a woman involved in this individual incident?
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Would the gun come out if it were an old guy?
Can an old guy attack someone?
Don't let objective facts get you upset when dealing with legal matters.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:44 pm to mwade91383
I don't know what happened before and I don't care BUT..
IF he stood over his body and shot him again, that should change it from whatever to murder, period
IF he stood over his body and shot him again, that should change it from whatever to murder, period
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:48 pm to chalmetteowl
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot
This is not what the law says.
There are elements that have to be met and there is no way to know the answer based on the info we have available to us.
Investigators will compile evidence and DA will pour over it to make a judgment call based upon a legal outcome whether or not to charge. There is also a chance that the US Attorney will have a look too.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:48 pm to the LSUSaint
Look out NOLA, DeeRay coming to riot...
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:49 pm to the LSUSaint
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I don't know what happened before and I don't care BUT.. IF he stood over his body and shot him again, that should change it from whatever to murder, period
True, but this is already in dispute.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:55 pm to chalmetteowl
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The standard for self-defense is high (and it should be) so Gasser should have made damn sure his life was in danger... sitting in your car with a piece means you better make sure you see another piece before you shoot
No, that's not what it means. Using lethal force in a self defense situation does not even require that a gun must be present.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:57 pm to PsychTiger
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I just want to make sure the Second Amendment is OK. Was it hurt? Can anyone confirm? Because that's all that really matters. The Second Amendment.
It could still be in danger. Can it join you in your safe space?
I want to commend you both for your excellent snark, I laughed at both.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 4:38 pm to mwade91383
Perfectly legal in the great hypocrisy 
Like shooting deer.
Like shooting deer.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 4:39 pm
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