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re: Joe Mcknight's shooter, Ronald Gasser, released from custody

Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:03 am to
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:03 am to
quote:

Would the fact that Gasser was charged with assault after chasing down another motorist at the same intersection 10 years ago be relative?


Nope.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:03 am to
quote:

I wonder how long it will take before they release the entire story?


I doubt they know the entire story just one day later.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:15 am to
quote:

Would the fact that Gasser was charged with assault after chasing down another motorist at the same intersection 10 years ago be relative?

At the time of the press conference, the sheriff wasn't sure if Gasser had a license to carry the gun. Is that something to consider?


can be sure you will always side against the white guy
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:00 am to
quote:

I've only seen a the statement from the witness who reported the opposite.
Sounds like that witness (or the reporter who quoted him) was a lying POS.
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A report from the New Orleans Times-Picayune, said a witness “saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize.” The witness also told the Times-Picayune that Gasser stood over McKnight and shot him.

Normand said that wasn’t true. He specifically discounted three things he said he has seen reported.

Normand, who said the incident “started as road rage,” said all three casings from bullets fired by Gasser were found in his car. He said that Gasser fired all the shots from inside his car, and never stood over McKnight.

“That did not happen,” Normand said in his press conference, which was broadcast live by NOLA.com. “That witness account – and we talked to that witness, if it’s the same one I’m talking about – is factually incorrect. It did not happen.”

Normand said there is no video of the incident that he is aware of.

He also said there was no account of McKnight trying to apologize to Gasser.
All 3 casings being inside Gasser's car puts McKnight at the guy's window, not the other way around. That doesn't mean the shooting was justified, but it does mean the Times-Picayune got the initial story horribly wrong, and owes the public both a retraction and apology.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 6:26 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101181 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:14 am to
quote:

At the time of the press conference, the sheriff wasn't sure if Gasser had a license to carry the gun. Is that something to consider?


You don't need a license to carry a gun in a vehicle in Louisiana.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:12 am to
Shocker eye witness lie all the time and people still buy into it
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:18 am to
quote:

Shocker eye witness lie all the time and people still buy into it


And the rabid media is always quick to report the most scandalous angle rather than trying to moderate the narrative. Time and time again these incidents are nothing more than click bait for the supposed main-stream media. And they'll never call the race-baiters to the floor on their rhetoric or look into the history of the people that were killed. Now I'm not saying Joe has any criminal history but others have and it's wrong for the media to paint them as saints vs trigger happy white people.
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4047 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:20 am to
Today Show is using term "gunned down". Hoping for an arrest.

Also bad mouthing the Jefferson Parish Sheriff

Unfortunately the tone has been set. Anything less than murder and the sheriff being removed from office is unacceptable.
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Unfortunately the tone has been set. Anything less than murder and the sheriff being removed from office is unacceptable.


The "shooter" bears some responsibility for this death. He did not call the police during this multi-mile car chase. He did not have to put down his window and could have remained in his locked car. The window was down as the first shot hit McKnight's hand as he reached for the gun.

The "shooter" should be held accountable for his part in this sad story. He may not be charged with murder but he did not act within the law during the entire car chase scenario.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5699 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:10 am to
Quote the criminal statutes Gasser violated by not calling police, rolling down his window, etc.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:11 am to
quote:

he did not act within the law during the entire car chase scenario.


What information do you have that he broke a law?

Hell, we are not even certain any traffic laws were broken.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 8:12 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47429 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:29 am to
In February in an article on Marijuana legalization, Normand was quoted "We'll get out of the drug business, but more policemen will live, and more people will die".
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5339 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:32 am to
quote:

He did not have to put down his window and could have remained in his locked car. The window was down as the first shot hit McKnight's hand as he reached for the gun.


You're describing McKnight as assaulting Gasser who fired from inside his vehicle. Perhaps people like McKnight shouldn't try to attack some one in their vehicle.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47429 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:37 am to
Why are we assuming he's attacking? There's coming over for a chat and then there's attacking. Especially coming from the passenger side where he has to reach over a seat?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:41 am to
My favorite thing about modern news stories is that people will make up their mind based upon non-existent facts or strange unwritten rules (that they'd never want applied to themselves) and form a narrative based upon those.

"Everyone knows you roll up your window when someone is following you during a road rage insurance. This guy didn't. He obviously wanted to kill a black man."
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:42 am to
quote:

coming over for a chat


Did the police say this was a road incident-which-incited-a-chat? Thanks in advance.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47429 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:48 am to
Only two people know and one is dead
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Only two people know and one is dead


Reread the question.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30145 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Does the shooter have to pretty well prove his self defense to not even be charged? Like we know who shot who and that he's dead so it's not like they are having to prove he committed the act, now he has to defend why he did it



Fair enough, but he says it's self defense and no eyewitnesses are willing to come forward and there is zero evidence AGAINST the shooters claim, then I can see how they would release him on bail (or just release him).

I've heard so many different stories by the media about how witnesses saw him being the aggressor. Why aren't they going to the police?
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:54 am to
quote:

I've heard so many different stories by the media about how witnesses saw him being the aggressor. Why aren't they going to the police?


The police interviewed the media's star witness and apparently none of what she said is backed up by the evidence.
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