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re: Its official U of Alabama is racist

Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:56 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:56 am to
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I'm just confused why it seems no one really thinks this is all that bad.

i don't agree with it, but it's not my club. i also won't support their club

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Probably bc Tuba is OP

well it's not that as much as hit blatant troll/misleading OP

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t "why the hell do these types of organizations still exist in 2014?!"

to me, i believe it is similar to gerrymandering. when you carve out the "all minority" groups or districts, you just make the surrounding groups/districts more strongly "majority"

it's kind of the sad reality of trying to force out racism instead of allowing society to just develop integration
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:58 am to
I'd support this decision if the Greek system wasn't buttressed by huge loans from the university to build their houses. It seems in this case that these groups are only private when the need to be.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:59 am to
BHP, as usual you provide keen insight. I agree with everything you stated.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41077 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:59 am to
Finally. Some perspective on this issue. Too bad it'll be lost in this shitfest thread of Tuba's.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:59 am to
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it's kind of the sad reality of trying to force out racism instead of allowing society to just develop integration

I see what you're saying, but I don't see how that applies to this case.

IIRC from when this first came out, this seemed to truly be organic change, not forced integration. Weren't these black girls accepted into the sorority by their peers, but it was older alumni who had a problem and made sure these girls couldn't join? To me that is forcing IN racism.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:01 am to
Roll Tide?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55439 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:03 am to
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I'd support this decision if the Greek system wasn't buttressed by huge loans from the university to build their houses. It seems in this case that these groups are only private when the need to be.



I agree. If Sigma Nu didn't use public money (to the extent that they do), I'd feel less ashamed of their policies. I think it will be a long time before I have a black brother.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:03 am to
Trashy but its their right to be trashy.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:04 am to
no doubt that racism still exist, not the same extent as the 50s. I'd say the minorities are more openly racist than anything.

I agree with the Soro/Frat's right to allow whomever they would like into their crew and believe that it will ultimately work itself out over time in society. Adapt or fall behind. Just makes the Frat look unattractive to me as a club I would like to join as a white male. Look unattractive to enough white males and you no longer have a club.

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EDIT - This thread will provide more evidence for my theory that the main purpose of the Republican party is to defend bigots and the wealthy.

This Tuba is why I sometimes don't know if to take what you're saying serious or not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:04 am to
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but I don't see how that applies to this case.

IIRC from when this first came out, this seemed to truly be organic change, not forced integration. Weren't these black girls accepted into the sorority by their peers, but it was older alumni who had a problem and made sure these girls couldn't join? To me that is forcing IN racism

no this move is totally racist, but i will almost guaran-fricking-tee you the old crew will say "they have their own sorrority"
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123814 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:05 am to
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So just because an organization is private, it can't also be racist?
First off racism unfortunately can occur in any setting. Obviously.

Secondly, the argument as to whether these groups are public or private is completely irrelevant. They exist only insofar as the University chooses not to shut down any association with them. That is the larger point.

That the UA Chancellor has not already stepped in and issued a suspension is stunning.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:07 am to
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That the UA Chancellor has not already stepped in and issued a suspension is stunning.


Supposedly they forced out the president after Witt when he tried to integrate the Greek system. Then they put in Judy Bonner.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:09 am to
Its amazing how not wanting to force your will on people with violence is considered support nowadays.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:09 am to
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First off racism unfortunately can occur in any setting. Obviously. Secondly, the argument as to whether these groups are public or private is completely irrelevant. They exist only insofar as the University chooses not to shut down any association with them. That is the larger point. That the UA Chancellor has not already stepped in and issued a suspension is stunning.

Yea, I can agree with this.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79626 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:13 am to
Dude, stick to academics and working your way out of trash cans you've been stuffed into.

In the real world, you're out of your depth.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:18 am to
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Congressional Black Caucus racist


Racist art thou, oh pot calling kettle democrat.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:20 am to
When the Racist Hall of Fame inducts the University of Alabama as its newest member, I hope they hang their plaque next to the one for Spiderman Tuba.

I think that's called poetic justice.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:21 am to
The Greek system is racist everywhere. I knew a girl who was accepted into a sorority, and multiple frats ceased participating in functions with them. Why? Because she was half Lebanese and had "darker" skin. And she was hot as all get out, but nope didn't matter.


I mean Christ they get dumber than that. I knew two girls who were HS best friends who joined the same sorority. The one girl was told she was in for sure, but she had to fight tooth and nail to get her friend into the sorority.

Why? Because her friend was a brunette. Not even kidding. The big sorority photo they do? 70 something blondes and 1 brunette. Greek system is stupid as all fricking get out.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123814 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:22 am to
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Freedom is only valuable to the extent that one is free to do some things that others dislike.

If the OP is truly offended, I invite him to read my Sig.
Except the action runs counter to the multicultural experience deemed important/critical on modern campuses.

So while it is perhaps a right of the Student Senators to express their viewpoints or manipulate votes, and it may be a right of frats and sororities to not "fully integrate" (whatever that actually means), it is also the right of the University to respond in kind . . . . and to respond vigorously.

Given this particular University's past reputation, it is nearly inconceivable this ugliness has been allowed to proceed at Alabama.

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:25 am to
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SpidermanTUba


You must live a pathetic existance
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