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re: It is official, Boehner has released the Kraken (Trey Gowdy)

Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:36 pm to
Put him on Lois Lerner. Simultaneously with this.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:45 pm to
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One of Nixon's articles of impeachment was solely based upon his failure to provide documents and tapes that had been subpoenaed.

"Solely based"? As if it existed in a vacuum? Your attempt at coverup wording won't escape the intelligent.

Nixon would not have been impeached merely for failure to provide documents.

Nixon was impeached for, among other things:

- Intentionally covering up a crime by his own staff, which in the eyes of many made him a de facto accessory.
- Intentionally obstructing justice by paying hush money to the Watergate burglars.
- Intentionally obstructing justice by paying blackmail money to the engineers of those burglaries.
- Intentionally destroying evidence of those things.

In a nutshell, you sound ridiculous when you attempt to compare this to Watergate.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:47 pm to
Did you just refer to yourself as "the intelligent"?

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:51 pm to
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What testimony? Be specific.
Testimony under oath.
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:52 pm to
Why doesn't the CIA just admit what they were doing in Libya?

There were enough agents on the ground to help the consultant, but they were protecting their mission. Everyone is lying about Benghazi and the CIA is the elephant in the room.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:53 pm to
Holy Fist frick!!


Have we seen the transformation from "Bush did it too" to "My dishonest, disingenuous a-hole isn't as guilty as Nixon"?




JEEBUS!!

hackery is frustrating.

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:54 pm to
Could be officialized.

'The Intelligent'
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:54 pm to
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"Solely based"? As if it existed in a vacuum? Your attempt at coverup wording won't escape the intelligent. Nixon would not have been impeached merely for failure to provide documents. Nixon was impeached for, among other things: - Intentionally covering up a crime by his own staff, which in the eyes of many made him a de facto accessory. - Intentionally obstructing justice by paying hush money to the Watergate burglars. - Intentionally obstructing justice by paying blackmail money to the engineers of those burglaries. - Intentionally destroying evidence of those things. In a nutshell, you sound ridiculous when you attempt to compare this to Watergate.



LINK

You are obviously unfamiliar with Nixon's articles of impeachment which include nothing you have listed here. The Nixon articles of impeachment could be applied almost verbatim to the activities of the state department and white house following Benghazi.

Article 1

"1.making false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

2.withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

3.approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;

4.interfering or endeavouring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, and Congressional Committees;

5.approving, condoning, and acquiescing in, the surreptitious payment of substantial sums of money for the purpose of obtaining the silence or influencing the testimony of witnesses, potential witnesses or individuals who participated in such unlawful entry and other illegal activities;

6.endeavouring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States;

7.disseminating information received from officers of the Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of investigations conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States, for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects in their attempts to avoid criminal liability;

8.making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct: or

9.endeavouring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favoured treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 6:57 pm
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:54 pm to
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In a nutshell, you sound ridiculous when you attempt to compare this to Watergate.

EXACTLY! No Americans were killed in Watergate.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:55 pm to
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"My dishonest, disingenuous a-hole isn't as guilty as Nixon"

Guilty of what?
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:55 pm to
Thankfully, gun running to enemies of the United States is perfectly legal. Might not want everyone to know, what with an election right around the corner, so I understand the Administration's willfulness to cover up this even if its legal and acceptable.
Ahh, Watergate... Spent a whole summer without nothing but this crap on all three networks all day long. Wasn't there a young staffer of the investigating committee that was dismissed because of improprieties? I believe her last name was Rodham...Integrity at its finest.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:58 pm to
Rex posted


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Nixon was impeached for, among other things: - Intentionally covering up a crime by his own staff, which in the eyes of many made him a de facto accessory. -



You posted

quote:

You are obviously unfamiliar with Nixon's articles of impeachment which include nothing you have listed here.



Article 1 from YOUR link:

quote:

On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.










Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 6:59 pm to
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You are obviously unfamiliar with Nixon's articles of impeachment which include nothing you have listed here.

You obviously can't read. Check out numbers 4, 5, and 9 of your link, whose inclusion are because of the things I listed.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:00 pm to
Facts are nasty little things, especially on interwebz message boards.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:01 pm to
He felt the need to say something, anything, no matter what.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:01 pm to
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Guilty of what?


assholery and dishonesty and disingenuousness.



I'm not calling for impeachment. Only for recognition of that.


But, again. The fact that you are defending his honor by pointing at Nixon as "worse" is pathetic.


Hitler was worse than Ted Bundy. I'm glad they are both dead.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:04 pm to
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But, again. The fact that you are defending his honor by pointing at Nixon as "worse" is pathetic. 



Clearly you're just a racist bastard
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:06 pm to
Nixon committed a crime by obstructing the prosecution of crimes. Hitler committed many crimes. Ted Bundy committed multiple crimes.

Where is Obama's crime in the Benghazi affair?

I'm sorry that you can't see the acts are qualitatively different.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:06 pm to
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Clearly you're just a racist bastard


I am NOT a bastard
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:08 pm to
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Where is Obama's crime in the Benghazi affair?

I'm sorry that you can't see the acts are qualitatively different.





I never said there were crimes.

That is my point.

"he can lie, mislead, obfuscate, and postpone....he isn't as bad as Nixon. So, its all good"
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