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re: In your own words, describe your understanding of Islam.

Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:02 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:02 am to
Islam/Mohammad REJECTS the idea that Jesus Christ was/is ONLY Begotten Son of God. With ultimate power to forgive Kharmic Debt (philosophical Sin)...IF individual sinner commits to the Principle of Jesus' qualifying Principles of Greater Love...and does their best to cultivate said Principles in their Worldly life.

Mohammed's intent/Religious Ideology is Authoritarian/Totalitarian, and directed toward employing the Islamic Group's violent power to force unbelievers to either "submit"...or suffer punishment as secondary citizens. This Ideology works well for Societies where the People's genetic characteristics are violently-inclined and less apt to experience the more complex feeling of Greater Love. A generalization, as there are always anomalies in any genetic group.

One either believes that Jesus IS who he said he was...or one does not. Islam does not, and is Ideologically offended by such, and sees it as their Moral/Theological DUTY to violently confront and destroy said Idea of Fundamental Christianity. Ensuring either a successful Ideological/Philosophical synthesis...or a big time shootout. Shootout first, with synthesis afterward...most likely scenario.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:03 am to
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In your own words, describe your understanding of Islam.



Nomadic desert death cult. Respect me or die. We have lawyers now. Respect me or die. How much for the goat?
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17714 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:03 am to
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Why doesn't the media ever ask Muslim Americans what their beliefs are? It seems ISLAM's beliefs or doctrine is skipped over...and always labeled "peaceful"...There is never conversation about the religion's beliefs or the Quran. Why is that?


Because the media (and the left in general) are so fricking scared of Islam. They are cowards who will cater to violence. They will never call them terrorists, they will never acknowledge they are a problem, and they want to let them into this country with no vetting process...just come on in...we don't hate you, in fact we'll give you free health insurance, and you can live off of our taxpayers...see we don't hate you at all - so you're not going to kill us right? In the eyes of the left, Christians are the problem, not Islam.

Islam has too many extremist who are willing to kill in the name of Islam and hate Western civilization. Look Christians aren't perfect, but we don't violently attack when someone makes fun of Jesus. We don't attempt to kill and blow up a different culture because we don't agree with it. Muslims don't care about this country. If they had their way, they would take over this country and turn it into an Islamic country, which the left will willingly let them do to prove they are so open minded and not Islamophobic.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:04 am to
Rape, murder, and hate bacon.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15522 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:06 am to
It's simple.

Islam is no more a religion than Communism is.

It is the principal that people must be ruled by force and not by choice.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4905 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:08 am to
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Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:11 am to
Everything the guy on the Bill Maher panel said to get Ben Affleck so pissed.....

That's pretty much my understanding.
Two types.

A. Watch the world burn because it has it coming.

B. Make the world burn.

They are basically living The Crusades and Salem Witch Trials times in modern day with CNN and Twitter and propaganda videos in 4K
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:15 am to
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What core values do you understand that followers of Islam believe in?
There is one God only, Allah. The Prophet Mohammed is the final prophet of Allah, following previous prophets Moses, Abraham and Jesus. Prophet Mohammed was sent to confirm the teachings of the previous prophets and to point out the errors of the Christians and Jews in their submission to God.

How are Muslims saved? Is there a path or belief to salvation? Who is their savior if one is needed in Islam?
Muslims are not saved like Christians. The Prophet Mohammed IS NOT A SAVIOR (a great blasphemy if believed). Muslims attain the kingdom in the following ways:
• Submission to Allah; belief in no other gods beside Him.
• Attending to prayers.
• Charity to orphans and children.
• Belief in the Day of Judgment
• Pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in life, if possible


What is the foundation of their core beliefs?
• The Holy Koran.

Which scriptures in the Quran are consistent with the New Testament teachings? (if any)
• The Holy Koran asserts that Jesus was a HOLY PROPHET, NOT THE SON OF GOD. While the Koran describes the historic acts of Jesus (miracles, teachings, etc.), it absolutely asserts that the belief that Jesus is the Son of God is an extreme blasphemy that Jesus himself would deny.

The Jews meanwhile, are consistently upbraided for their numerous departures from the strictures of God, given to them by their prophets. The Koran does however refer to the Israelites as the Chosen Ones.

All this coverage in the media about Islamophobia has me a little stirred...

Why doesn't the media ever ask Muslim Americans what their beliefs are? It seems ISLAM's beliefs or doctrine is skipped over...and always labeled "peaceful"...There is never conversation about the religion's beliefs or the Quran.

Why is that?

Why rely on the media to enlighten you–how often do you receive reliable information from those prejudiced morons?

Instead, get a copy of the Koran yourself and read it. ADVICE: Have an Islamic interpreter available to answer your questions, you will have many.

I read the book with an imam in Florida, which made the thing more comprehensible, although the book is rife with conundrums, contradictions and passages that invite the most extreme skepticism–just like the Bible and the Torah.


Good luck.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 8:17 am
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:20 am to
Allah is Satan
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16447 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:21 am to
Islam- a radical anti Christian movement that uses terrorist actions, intimidation, and fear to try and impose their will. Not concerned with assimilation to other nations where they move but rather converting them to their beliefs or violently taking actions. Murderers who need to be nuked into oblivion.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29981 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:25 am to


Christianity without the slick marketing but with more emphasis on goat fricking.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:26 am to
Islam is not a religion as modern day "religion" is understood.

It's a cult.

And, the sooner we start treating it like a cult the better off (and safer) the world will be.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69930 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:29 am to
It's not my job to understand Islam. I don't want to enable a delusional group of people by pretending that I want to understand them.


Go anywhere in the world where Islam is the predominant religion and tell me you'd want to live there.

Go anywhere in this country where the majority of the citizens are Muslims and tell me you'd want to live there.


The Islamic religion and culture both suck, I don't have to understand why.


Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53777 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:31 am to
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the book is rife with conundrums, contradictions and passages that invite the most extreme skepticism–just like the Bible and the Torah.



And you show your true knowledge of the bible at the end of your none sense ..

I've read parts of the Quran with web commentary...

If you study with a Muslim, you're going to get a ton of spin. "Oh that's what it says but not what it means" LOL...ok, well, show us scripture that make the puzzle fit to make sense?

The fact is, there are no Jesus type Quotes or teachings from Mohammad himself

"love they neighbor has yourself"

"Love your enemies"

NONE!

Jesus came first...and if you understand him and his purpose, then you get Muhammad is a fraud.

when you read the Quran, you understand it's a fraud

When you observe the fruit of Islam's tree in the middle east it shows the world it is a fraud.

Cover your women, if they are raped, they should be killed, and pray to a false God 5 times a day...

Adopt Sharia Law because it's God's law!!!!



Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53777 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:33 am to
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The Islamic religion and culture both suck, I don't have to understand why.


Ok, but don't you think we should understand something that is slowly dominating the world?

and endorse by our liberal friends and media as "peaceful"

"It's UN Americana to not allow them in as immigrants"
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69930 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:37 am to
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Ok, but don't you think we should understand something that is slowly dominating the world?



Oh I get that, I was speaking for the people who are too lazy to study the religion. I have studied it, and I despise it, but most people won't take the time.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 8:38 am
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:40 am to
N too different from Christianity EXCEPT...

- it is the only major religion that has not gone through its own renaissance/enlightenment.
- unlike Christianity/ it does not allow variations of its religion to exist in any way.
- leadership does not allow others to offer interpretations of the religion.
- cant draw Mohammed

more like a cult IMO
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124169 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:40 am to
quote:

wrong with Islam at its most basic level
quote:

Its a vile and evil political ideology. It isn't a religion.
At it's "most basic level", that is false.

As with nearly any religion, "vile and evil" comes via interpretation and application, not in origin or foundation.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:50 am to
Islam has a long history. We don't have to guess what's it's about or spend lots of time trying to develop a nuanced understanding of it.

Let's treat Islam as what its followers say it is....it's a threat to the West. It's a threat to civilization. A threat to the values that I and you hold dear, whether you're a conservative or a liberal.

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:02 am to
Blight on humanity.


Case closed.
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