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re: In your own words, describe your understanding of Islam.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:12 am to MrCarton
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:12 am to MrCarton
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With all the Quran scholars around here, one would think these posts would be a lot more informative.
This is where we miss Toothpick. He was quite the scholar on the topic of Islam.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:13 am to PsychTiger
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So Jews COULD do it and Muslims ARE doing it, and that is equivalent in your eyes?
Well if you read the thread title, then you would realize the point you are making here isn't relevant.
We are talking about the nature of Islam, not shite Muslims are doing. If you don't believe there is a distinct difference, then you must know the most devout Christians to ever walk the earth.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:19 am to PsychTiger
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PsychTiger
If exposing an error that a fifth-grade Sunday school class would not overlook is badass ... then I must be a badass.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:20 am to Mars duMorgue
It's not about pointing out an error, it's the WAY you point it out.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:22 am to ApexTiger
It's a religion. Most adherents are cultural and aren't radical. The radicals are dangerous, but our foriegn policy feeds their growth.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:22 am to SidewalkDawg
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The application of their text in a literal fashion would surely justify it though.
That's a HUGE distinction though. Pretty much the widest gulf in the world.
There aren't any rabbi preaching the slaughter of non-believers and conquering the world.
That's standard fare among imams though.
There's a fundamental difference between the two religions too - a major distinction you left out - Judaism is a tribal religion of one people. Yes it entailed war and slaughter in the defense of that tribe in the far distant past, but it never advocated proselytism much less world domination - which Islam does. Yet again, this is why I say that Islam is a violent political movement more than it is a religion. It's more like Trotskyist (Internationalist) Communism (though not its actual philosophy obviously) than Judiaism, Bhuddism, or Christianity.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:31 am to PsychTiger
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It's not about pointing out an error, it's the WAY you point it out.
Ah yes, thank you. As is quite obvious, I have an abiding commitment to my fellow man, particularly those whose journeys along the path of knowledge are obstructed by a want of information--or, to put it gently, a want of capacity.
In any case, I stand by those who seek knowledge and are willing to confront their personal challenges in an effort to better themselves. I am glad to be of assistance whenever and wherever I can.
Thank you for pointing this out in your succinct and astute post.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:39 am to ApexTiger
quote:The national main-stream media are broadcast chiefly from a city whose Muslim population have contributed positively to its culture.
Why doesn't our media put out there then?
"They live in a bubble" would be a more cynical way of putting it. Points of view inevitably will differ greatly here. Think about it. I'm in New York, and it's a bag of skittles, and whatever color the Muslims are doesn't really cause any problems in New York. Joe Blow is in middle America, and all he knows about Muslims is what he sees on tv. Joe Blow and I are bound to see Muslims differently; most of your national media are produced by people who live within 20 miles of me.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:40 am to Cooter Davenport
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Ponder this: The more radical a Buddhist becomes, the more pacifistic they get.
This is wrong, my friend.
Go live as a Christian missionary in a majority Buddhist country like Burma or Sri Lanka and tell me how peaceful the extremist Buddhists are.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:40 am to ApexTiger
Kill any non Muslim.
Islam is bad.
Islam is bad.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:49 am to ApexTiger
Islam is more of a political ideology than a religion. They have a whole system of gevernance called sharia. Their goal is to systematically over take the world through Islamism, which is a kind of political jihad.
The globalists (The EU and the USA Uniparty) have manufactured the migrant crisis in order to destroy Western civilization and usher in the New World Order. We are starting to fight back through Brexit, Trump and hopefully other anti immigration victories in the coming future. Austria is voting tomorrow and France can continue our cultural renaissance by electing Marine Le Pen.
Basically Islam is incompatible with Western values and it is being used as a tool to bring the World to heel. Ask yourself why leftists defend these sexist homophobes. It makes no sense except that they are being used as a tool.
The globalists (The EU and the USA Uniparty) have manufactured the migrant crisis in order to destroy Western civilization and usher in the New World Order. We are starting to fight back through Brexit, Trump and hopefully other anti immigration victories in the coming future. Austria is voting tomorrow and France can continue our cultural renaissance by electing Marine Le Pen.
Basically Islam is incompatible with Western values and it is being used as a tool to bring the World to heel. Ask yourself why leftists defend these sexist homophobes. It makes no sense except that they are being used as a tool.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:18 pm to Vastmind
All three of the middle eastern religions think they will take
Over the world. Islam still has teaching and fanatics who want to do it by force like muhammed did on day one.
Over the world. Islam still has teaching and fanatics who want to do it by force like muhammed did on day one.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:21 pm to ballscaster
Well said.
I spent plenty of time in NYC and knew some great Muslims. If they wanted to carry out or supported the jihad, they did a damn good job of fooling me. Granted I'm sure the extremists didn't try as hard to integrate into society and I never interacted with them.
All that said, we don't need to be taking in a ton of refugees without a rigorous vetting process. I don't think we owe US rights and liberties to non citizens/residents. Yeah, it's nice to help when we can, but we can help in other ways.
I spent plenty of time in NYC and knew some great Muslims. If they wanted to carry out or supported the jihad, they did a damn good job of fooling me. Granted I'm sure the extremists didn't try as hard to integrate into society and I never interacted with them.
All that said, we don't need to be taking in a ton of refugees without a rigorous vetting process. I don't think we owe US rights and liberties to non citizens/residents. Yeah, it's nice to help when we can, but we can help in other ways.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:25 pm to Mars duMorgue
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The Bible is packed with the conundrums and contradictions you deny. Starting with the book of Genesis. YOU ARE CLEARLY IGNORANT OF THE TWO CREATION STORIES IN THAT BOOK, AMONG THE MOST MONUMENTAL AND CONTROVERSIAL CONTRADICTIONS IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE.
Hey, what are these two creation stories?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:13 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Hey, what are these two creation stories?
Thanks to a bracing combination of medications I ingested earlier today, I am in a most pleasant and congenial mood.
So I'll play along.
Genesis 1:1–2:3 and Genesis 2:4–2:25.
Of course, you knew this and I know you knew it. Perhaps though, our friend ApexTiger will see this and actually learn something. I will be pleased for his sake if this is so.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:32 pm to Vastmind
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Islam is more of a political ideology than a religion. They have a whole system of gevernance called sharia.
Good GOD it is getting thick up in here.
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Halakha (/h??'l??x?/; Hebrew: ????????, Sephardic: [hala'?a]; also transliterated as halacha, halakhah, halachah or halocho) (Ashkenazic: [ha'lo?o]) is the collective body of Jewish religious laws derived from the Written and Oral Torah.
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Judaism classically draws no distinction in its laws between religious and non-religious life; Jewish religious tradition does not distinguish clearly between religious, national, racial, or ethnic identities.[2] Halakha guides not only religious practices and beliefs, but numerous aspects of day-to-day life. Halakha is often translated as "Jewish Law," although a more literal translation might be "the way to behave" or "the way of walking." The word derives from the root that means "to behave" (also "to go" or "to walk").
Just a little FYI, Sharia also means road path. Both Judaism and Islam derive legal theories from their respective documents. Sharia, like Judaic law, is not a fixed document of legal procedure. It's malleable, having been interpreted in uncountable ways throughout its history.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:35 pm to ApexTiger
quote:It's a religious belief system
In your own words, describe your understanding of Islam.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:37 pm to ApexTiger
Your attempt to put a square peg (Islam) in a round hole (Judeo-Christian teachings) won't work.
It's a heresy. Islam denounces the Jew for having broken it's Covenant with God and denies that Jesus is Son of God.
Muslims seek God, the same as anyone else. Islam does not lead people on the true path to God. Islam was flawed from its beginning and is still a flawed dogma today.
It's a heresy. Islam denounces the Jew for having broken it's Covenant with God and denies that Jesus is Son of God.
Muslims seek God, the same as anyone else. Islam does not lead people on the true path to God. Islam was flawed from its beginning and is still a flawed dogma today.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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It's a religious belief system
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:06 pm to FlatLakeTiger
Islam was created by a child-raping desert warlord as a tool of political and social unification during his conquest of large areas of the Arabian Peninsula, which had previously been ruled by multiple competing petty kingdoms.
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