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re: If Trump loses this battle of ideology

Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:05 pm to
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the solution is for the more moderates of BOTH parties to grow a pair and start getting their parties back toward


This sounds great on paper, but in reality, the biggest moderates, like Liberman and McCain, are just the most politically Machvellian and the biggest whores.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47539 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:05 pm to
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What?? He was put in office to repeal Obamacare - something his entire base agreed on.
and as we all know, his base isn't even 50%. It might not be 35%.

Trump made his money by selling the opulent gilded lifestyle his towers embodied. He even attempted to sell steaks at an electronics store like they were the ones he ate.

He's trying to sell the wall, but in 21st century America, we all know people who came here for a better life for themselves and embody American ideals more than quite frankly most Americans.

Trump never had a mandate. A good Democratic candidate would have utterly wrecked him, and the sooner he realizes it, the better
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:11 pm to
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It might not be 35%


That red map disagrees with you.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52949 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:13 pm to
Trump is basically our ghandi or mlk. He is peacefully standing up for our civil rights. For too long our basic rights of free speech without fear of getting hit with a bike lock, not paying oppressively high taxes, and not having our kids turned into transgenders, etc have been trampled on.

Trump is peacefully protesting for the civil rights of us normal people and the left is trying to silence him

Baw lives matter!
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10530 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Who might that be?...whose your guy/gal?


Pence
Ryan

Hell, anyone who understands the basic principles of leadership and how to bring people their side.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:29 pm to
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Pence
Ryan

Hell, anyone who understands the basic principles of leadership and how to bring people their side.

Pence is nothing like Ryan who might as well had a nice coversheet with 500 blank pages under it that he handed to Obama for a replacement every year for a veto...it was worse than Obamacare.
If you think Paul Ryan is the answer your confused. He and the rest of those fricks are the problem...you know, "the establishment". They couldn't even get a repeal...not because of Trump, but some bitch arse senators...Flake, McCain. There is nobody going to be able to deal with these fricks. They need replaced.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22355 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Ironic. You remember November?


Yep. Some of the same people in this thread swore that he had 0 chance of ever winning. They have written the man off as being finished 100 times. Yet he still stands to fight another day. I am not going to sell the man short. I do not believe he is finished yet.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:43 pm to
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You do realize it's been eight months and the country is already better off than the eight years of incompetence and corruption.


Only a moron believes this. Take a look in the mirror.

quote:

The "chaos" is from your bunch of crazies...the liberal media and all the stupid bitch clubs, but whatever it takes.


No, the chaos is self inflicted. All you have to do is exam his numerous tweets which have come back to haunt him.

Trump cannot get out of his own way, thus the belly flop of his first 8 months.

The true question is, can he figure it out in time before he spends the rest of his term in what is essentially a lame duck status?

He has lost everyone he needs except his absolute core. The clock is ticking.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:49 pm to
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No, the chaos is self inflicted. All you have to do is exam his numerous tweets which have come back to haunt him.


the chaos is coming from the left and has been for almost 3 years. Killing cops, burning buildings and what not. It has nothing to do with tweets but you keep doing you.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:50 pm to
Agreed. We needed a president who could unite people, and sell them on ideas.

Unbeknownst to us Barrry Soetoro had no intention and his hate filled narrative polorized the nation.

That is why folks who love the country chose Donald Trump.

Unfortunately Foreign money and Big Business overrides the will of the people.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45724 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:52 pm to
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But the Poli Board keeps telling me that Trump has wiped out the last 8 years and has set "liberals" back 40 years.
"The Poli Board" keeps telling you that you're a worthless poster that brings no value, yet you keep showing up, anyway. At some point one would think the message might resonate with you and you'd disappear.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22355 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Senators fight back.


I agree with you on that part. But the deciding factor will be if the people vote some of these people out in 2018. Will the people stick with Trump or will they grow weary of the fight and just give up. That is what will decide it. Who is going to get the blame ultimately for nothing getting done?
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Only a moron believes this. Take a look in the mirror.

Dude you were a Kasich clown(Dem lite) and Voted for Clinton(we've seen that show). You're the moron, but keep up the delusion. Either one of those two would have accomplished nothing for this country to this point...just their gravy, train, establishment cronyism, rip off America shtick...you know, business as usual.
quote:

No, the chaos is self inflicted. All you have to do is exam his numerous tweets which have come back to haunt him. Trump cannot get out of his own way, thus the belly flop of his first 8 months. The true question is, can he figure it out in time before he spends the rest of his term in what is essentially a lame duck status? He has lost everyone he needs except his absolute core. The clock is ticking.

Did you miss the part where he was taking on the ESTABLISHMENT? That includes the GOP and they knew it. He never had any intentions of becoming BFF's with those fricks...they have to be voted out and it wasn't going to happen overnight. DUH
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 2:14 pm to
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"The Poli Board" keeps telling you that you're a worthless poster that brings no value, yet you keep showing up, anyway. At some point one would think the message might resonate with you and you'd disappear.




Safe space...and all that.

I can't think of a single time I've agree with posters like mmcgrath or BamaAtl, but it's amusing to watch y'all beg them to go away.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22355 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:10 pm to
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I can't think of a single time I've agree with posters like mmcgrath or BamaAt


If only your posts backed that up Fighting Joe.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:14 pm to
So this is a multithreaded melt...
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:19 pm to
at this point draining the swamp is the agenda...

I'm on board

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22355 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63475 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:38 pm to
Would someone please inform me of Trump's "ideology? I've not discerned any from him.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 3:43 pm to
Trump has done NOTHING to influence congress on his "ideology".

He has done a very poor job. Insulting and tweeting BS does not help him with a hostile Congress.

Just look at the republicans that took the time to comment on his pardon today. They aren't afraid of him. They do not respect him.

He has no organization to threaten them. He has these huge rallies that have no purpose. Don't you think had he stood up in Phoenix and said "here is my tax plan now go tell your Congressman and Senator to support it" that would have been more productive than attacking Flake?
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