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re: If Trump loses this battle of ideology
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:04 pm to AU86
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:04 pm to AU86
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We have leaders that are cowards and have no conviction.
This is false. We have leaders who no longer support the messenger of their party's message, for very rational, right minded reasons.
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:05 pm to Toddy
He would not lose if he had any help from the GOP cowards in Washington. That bunch would rather the hard left triumph. I am going to vote aginst any and every GOP incumbent in my district from the legislature in 2018.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:06 pm to Toddy
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Is there really any doubt that he's going to lose this battle? In the end he's going to lose, and lose big.
you of all people should hope not
you may have your issues with the old guard, but in the end the old guard will be the only thing keeping you from getting tossed off of a roof
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:06 pm to AU86
This is the 60s all over again. It's a movement. Progress will not be stopped, only slowed.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:07 pm to DEG
Must I remind you that those leaders and Congress have far lower approval ratings than Trump does. Both parties in Congress are totally worthless. That same bunch of Republican leaders just rolled over and never fought Obama on anything. The Republican leaders in Congress were Obama's bitch's.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:10 pm to CoachChappy
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You liberals have set yourselves back to the Stone Age.
Yeah, they have hit rock bottom. All they have is their little terrorist clubs that stand for different things each day.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:11 pm to redneck hippie
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This is the 60s all over again. It's a movement. Progress will not be stopped, only slowed.
Not even close.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:15 pm to DEG
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We have leaders who no longer support the messenger of their party's message, for very rational, right minded reasons.
Wrong
We have leaders being exposed as to not giving a damn about the people that elected them.
As of right now John Boehner is about the only GOP person to have told the truth when he said the GOP would never repeal the ACA.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:16 pm to MrLarson
100% correct.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:20 pm to asurob1
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Fight's over and Trump lost.
I know this board is the magic bubble that Trump's key supporters run to when things are tough.
But his presidency is a laughing stock. He still hasn't managed to get his agenda through Congress...and considering he is now at war with the very Senators and congressmen he needs to pass said agenda. Pretty much it's all dead.
Trump might be (and I say might because he did go out of business four times) a good business guy, but being a good business guy where you are a dictator does not translate well to running a country where even your own close advisors tell you to frick off.
Game over.
for what it's worth
there are lot more trump supporters than you think than just this board.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:34 pm to DEG
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Unbeknownst to us DT had no ideas and his hate filled narrative polorized the nation.
That only exists in your mind.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:34 pm to asurob1
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Chaos is never a strength.
Well golly gee. You do realize it's been eight months and the country is already better off than the eight years of incompetence and corruption. The "chaos" is from your bunch of crazies...the liberal media and all the stupid bitch clubs, but whatever it takes.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:36 pm to AU86
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Must I remind you that those leaders and Congress have far lower approval ratings than Trump does.
Trumps approval ratings are historically low, Congresses are average compared to the last 10-15 years.
If republicans were Obamas bitches it was because he could sell a fricking idea. Which gets me back to my points. Trump has no idea how to sell an idea - he can't unite.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:46 pm to DEG
Obama bought votes to get Obamacare passed. Pure and simple. He didn't sell anything but pork and political favors to get certain votes to pass that disaster.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:52 pm to DEG
quote:Trump has made a billion selling an idea and a lifestyle...
Trump has no idea how to sell an idea - he can't unite.
The problem is now, he's selling what the people REALLY don't want.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:56 pm to AU86
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This country is shifting hard left and much quicker than you would have ever thought
yep, and i very much dislike it.... going to extremes with EITHER political ideology is dangerous.... the solution is for the more moderates of BOTH parties to grow a pair and start getting their parties back towards each other, finding common ground, and the ability to work together for the betterment of the republic...
but the way it is now, moderates on both sides are marginalized and cast aside, since they don't take the hardline "party over country" approach of the deeply entrenched... they seek to further the divide with rhetoric and unbecoming tactics.... it is sad what society has allowed to become representative of them in politics....
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:56 pm to AU86
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Obamacare bought votes to get Obamacare passed. Pure and simple. He didn't sell anything but pork and political favors to get certain votes to pass that disaster.
Lmao. You just described a "deal". That's what Trump promised - the "best most tremendous deals". Now, he can't even galvanize his party enough to repeal the one thing all republicans want gone (me included).
Can you not see this?
I want his arse gone so that we can get something DONE! The constant support for someone who does nothing but alienate his base will only lead to constant stalemate.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:59 pm to chalmetteowl
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Trump has made a billion selling an idea and a lifestyle...
You certainly can't prove that
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The problem is now, he's selling what the people REALLY don't want.
What?? He was put in office to repeal Obamacare - something his entire base agreed on.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:02 pm to asurob1
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Fight's over and Trump lost.
I know this board is the magic bubble that Trump's key supporters run to when things are tough.
Ironic. You remember November?
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:03 pm to DEG
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I want his arse gone so that we can get something DONE
Who might that be?...whose your guy/gal?
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 1:05 pm
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