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re: Hamas militants caught assembling and firing rockets next to Journalist Hotel

Posted on 8/6/14 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 1:50 pm to
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You never saw a rocket fired, just some smoke. And the site was a few hundred yards from the hotel. Local police should be able to just detonate the site (which may have happened).


Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Check this one out...


Guessing a 107mm rocket.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35385 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Check this one out, a French source. LINK I would ask you to take notice of the children playing on the launch site. Did they just magically appear on site after the site was used for military purposes, or were they around when the rockets were launched?
Isn't that the same exact site from the other report, just different firing times?
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Isn't that the same exact site from the other report, just different firing times?


OMG man. Please tell me you are just trolling at this point.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:03 pm to
You never saw any of the Palestinian casualties being killed, just some bodies. Yet you accept the stories being told as to how they were caused.

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Local police should be able to just detonate the site (which may have happened).
Now that is a good one. Where are the local police? They are not on hand when casualties are being shown arriving at medical facilities. They must be out there searching for Hamas rockets in order to detonate them and prevent Hamas from launching them at Israel.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:15 pm to
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Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties

By bombing a U.N. shelter that the U.N. warned them about 33 times with precise GPS coordinates?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:26 pm to
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By bombing a U.N. shelter that the U.N. warned them about 33 times with precise GPS coordinates?


Link. I am guessing that Hamas was storing rockets or firing rockets from there....but I'll bite. send me your source...


Now, will you at least admit that Hamas is firing from civilian areas?
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:35 pm to
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By bombing a U.N. shelter that the U.N. warned them about 33 times with precise GPS coordinates?




So what you got on the two clear examples in this thread of rockets being fired intentionally from high civilian areas? You dismiss this stuff or ignore it.

The logical man deduces that its failry evident that Hamas cares little for where they place, hide and fire their rockets. Many many first hand documented accounts just like the two in this thread. So instead of the possibility of rockets being fired in near or around the "UN shelter" (which is funny in itself as Hamas uses UN marked vehicles to ferry ordnance and personnel around, but i digress...) and Israel response like usual, maybe missing its intended location by 100 meters.

Its clear you have no experience in the Military. The US, the most technologically advanced Military in the world misses exatc targets all the time. Hell the danger close distance for a 155mm round is over 300meters.

Occam's razor.

It amazes me that some people actually buy into the pro hammas propaganda, I mean all in.

If Israel wanted Palestinians "dead" they would have done it long ago. If the wanted to completely gut any Palestinian will, they would have done it long ago.







This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:35 pm to
The death toll thus far is 3 Israeli civilians, 64 Israeli soldiers and 1800 Palestinians. I can see why Israel needs to kill more since those rockets are so devastating.

Hamas should move towards more effective rockets... like these:

Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Hamas should move towards more effective rockets... like these


Or they should just stop firing them. Crazy thought, I know....cant hold them responsible, must blame someone else...
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Link. I am guessing that Hamas was storing rockets or firing rockets from there....but I'll bite. send me your source...


You guess wrong...

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The Israeli military said it had targeted three wanted militants on a motorcycle in the vicinity and was "reviewing the consequences of this strike."
LINK 10 killed with that strike.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Link. I am guessing that Hamas was storing rockets or firing rockets from there....but I'll bite. send me your source...

Jump to the 2:50 mark.

LINK

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Now, will you at least admit that Hamas is firing from civilian areas?

All of Gaza is a civilian area. It's not Hamas' fault that Gaza is the most densely populated real estate on the planet.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:42 pm to
Innocent civilian = Gazan who openly allows terrorists to fire rockets from behind their children

got it
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
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It's not Hamas' fault




Do you people even read and believe the shite you type?

Hammas put in power by the people.

No rockets and tunnels, no strikes.

No rockets and tunnels over a long period, Palestian statehood with Is real helping prop up its economy.


Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
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Or they should just stop firing them. Crazy thought, I know....cant hold them responsible, must blame someone else...


Yes, 1.5 million people living in a cramped space of 25 miles by 5 miles, unable to leave by air, land or sea, in horrible poverty should accept their condition... in fact bend down, grabbed their ankles and say "Yes sir, may I have another".

Why do conservatives advocate freedom... will fight and die for freedom... but think these guys shouldn't fight back?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:46 pm to
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It's not Hamas' fault


It is if you are shooting rockets from the middle of that population and then whining when civilians get killed as a direct result of your having shot rockets. Every single civilian Palestinian death rests at the feet of Hamas.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:47 pm to
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The death toll thus far is 3 Israeli civilians, 64 Israeli soldiers and 1800 Palestinians


You would really think the Palestinians would accept defeat at some point.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:48 pm to
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Hamas should move towards more effective rockets...


If they are what I think they are...



...then they are notoriously inaccurate when fired from an improvised platform (even from a military platform).

The rockets can be easily set up on a rock or another firm surface and crudely aimed in the direction of its target, sometimes up to three miles away. Accuracy is mostly guesswork, which probably explains why there are comparatively few casualties despite them being a common occurrence.

Demonstration in Afghanistan
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:48 pm to
sspaniel, damn right
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Yes, 1.5 million people living in a cramped space of 25 miles by 5 miles, unable to leave by air, land or sea, in horrible poverty should accept their condition... in fact bend down, grabbed their ankles and say "Yes sir, may I have another".

Why do conservatives advocate freedom... will fight and die for freedom... but think these guys shouldn't fight back?


Ah, so now you are moving the goal posts. Not surprising. You even got a "conservative" jab in there, which is funny.
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