re: Globalism,in a nutshell

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Add that to the widespread demonization of white people

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Pretty shocking how open and direct this is. Liberals aren't even hiding it anymore. I can't believe I ever voted for democrats and I never will again. The DNC race is sickening to behold. So much white guilt.

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You have to separate out color (as in white) from ethnicity.

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The whole point was to compare Greece to modern western society. As you say, ethnicity in Greece was not "race" since pretty much everyone was "white." However, that's not the case in, say, America today. Ethnicity is defined more by race than by anything else.

My point is you're being disingenuous when you say Greece was "multicultural" in the sense of America. Two totally different things. Sparta vs. Troy in those days was about like Britain vs. France or Germany vs. Poland in the modern era. Hardly what we think of today as multicultural. Sure, the cultures and languages were different, but they weren't different "races" (and weren't even that different culturally, tbh).

Globalism is a boogeyman, a spectre conquered from imagery written down two millennia ago.

Humans will never unite under a single government. It fundamentally goes against our nature. Even a global conquering Islamic caliphate would splinter and divide into warring nations.

Both those who fear it and desire it are fools who deny the nature of our existence.

This is the best description I've seen, From the movie Network:

Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

Beale: But why me?

Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.



Beale: I have seen the face of God.

Jensen: You just might be right, Mr. Beale.

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The child free culture amongst whites is getting absolutely out of control especially amongst the middle class and I'm just talking about americans.

It has to be nuclear disaster of epic proportions amongst middle class european whites

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Yep. Our culture no longer values families. It's too "bourgeois " or the economy has taken child rearing years away with financial responsibilities that make having a child difficult. I think the fall of religion has contributed to this decline and we've taken for granted what's actually resulting from this attack. I don't know how to explain it and no I don't think everyone should be super church everyday Christians or the like, but there's something to be said for the system of values based in religious doctrine, at the least the religions that have prevailed in our country.

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How nice it would be to not have religion any longer.

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It's an albatross around the neck of humanity. Although the majority of human beings are still too willfully ignorant to see the forest for the trees.

A lot of it is economic and technological in nature.

The economy today is so much more intensely competitive than anything previous generations had to face. In the 19th century, you had stories like Abraham Lincoln becoming a self-educated lawyer being common. But somewhere along the line, society started demanding much more time investment for children.

It used to be nobody paid too much attention to what kids were doing. Then came the yuppies fighting over preschools and PTA conferences and safety helmets and daycare centers. None of that crap existed before.

The ancient world was based more on extended kin and clans, and frontier culture of America was based more on nuclear settler families. But that usually just meant making the kids go to Sunday school and the village schoolhouse, and that was about it. Now we have student loans being greater than auto loans in this country. It's incredible.

All of which is to say that it's hard to fault people for not wanting to have kids as much. The financial burden in work-years of having kids is greater than it has ever been before, by several multiples.

Some of this is due to anti-family-growth policies and women-in-the-workforce and contraceptives and an entitlement system that is designed to help the elderly at the expense of the young (which is part of what makes it necessary for women to work to afford decent housing). However, a lot of it is just due to the technological nature of the corporate work world today, and how much educational investment is required to be considered a successful adult.

In the history of the world, we've never been in a demographic situation like what we are facing right now. Historically speaking, nobody knows what it's like to have gradually decreasing population growth and aging demographics at the same time.

Check out this resource on global demographics at LINK.



We are somewhere near the 3/4 border in the U.S., and that "population pyramid" on the bottom row keeps bulging upward. Only when that pyramid stabilizes will our entitlement system and family laws and practices start to look more rational and stable.

All of this necessarily affects our cultural sexual attitudes and adherence to religious traditions as well.

Not really. Religion is the product of values that already existed and it arose out of that - not the other way around. Having lots of kids was not only a safety measure against infant and juvenile mortality, it provided labor and security.

Anyway, Europe lost most of its population in the middle ages due to plague, and they didn't cease to exist. This is how we know that the "birth rates! we need muzzies for labor NOW!" bullshite is bullshite.

As for the value in mixing the "cultures," Greece and Italy were once wellsprings of innovation. Not so much now. The Renaissance artists were northern Italians. The southerners are basically just a bunch of dumbasses.

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It will be destroyed. You can see the attitude that destroys it on here. People don't have the strong moral values that made this country great and most people seem to dislike religion of any kind and prefer relative morality or morality based on opinion.

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The foundation for American greatness was laid in the 19th century by cutthroat business monopolies and was punctuated when we vaporized 200 thousand Japanese citizens with the most powerful weapon ever built.

Morality and religion had shite to do with it. This country was built through ambition, ingenuity and a system that allowed those traits to be expressed on unprecented levels.

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Morality and religion had shite to do with it. This country was built through ambition, ingenuity and a system that allowed those traits to be expressed on unprecented levels

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So there were no universal values strongly held across the American populace in that time? It was 100% economic and no other reason at all?