re: Gay marriage, Polygamy and then what...

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Eventually you can get to the entire population of La. entering into lawfully wedded bliss with the entire state of Alabama.

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the day I leave Louisiana

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Minors have more protection than ever, not less.

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Seriously, is this guy dumb enough to think that pedophiles are becoming more accepted? If anything, they're less accepted now more than ever, and there are programs directly dedicated to shaming them and ruining their lives: LINK

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It was more arranged marriages, often times involved marrying 12 year olds to 60 year old men merely for political alliances. If you want to go back to that

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I said nothing about any of this.

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Seriously, is this guy dumb enough to think that pedophiles are becoming more accepted?

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I think he's using some slippery slope argument between two unrelated things, which doesn't even come close to working

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I'll leave you guys to play with each other.

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Same as you should do for any grown adults that doesn't affect you in any way

I haven't met very many people I know are homosexuals, but the ones I have met seem to be pretty well behaved folks. I am also a firm believer that everyone should have the same rights and obligations. So even though gays have never done anything to me personally, if the rest of us have to get married they do too. I know, its a harsh statement to make to sentence people who have never done you wrong to such a torment, but there you have it.

I'm not sure why everyone gets into these threads. They seem to pop up almost daily and it's the same recycled posts over and over.


Here's a clue, you guys will NEVER agree. You will NEVER change the others mind. It's not hard to figure out.


Christians believe marriage was designed by and belongs to god and people have no right to defile it. Christians believe the family begins with a mother and father as god designed.

The other side disagrees with this because they don't believe in god. So God is the cornerstone for one side and irrelevant to the other. If you don't like gay marriage being illegal, vote in people who will legalize it. If you're on the other side, do the opposite. That's the only voice that matters, your vote.

Going in circles on this board about the same issues has never and won't ever accomplish anything and hurling insults back and forth accomplishes even less.


Now to answer the question from earlier on why christians should care, part of it could be that once it is legalized, christians are forced to participate or perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples when it goes against their deepest held beliefs. But that of course would infringe on the rights of christians.

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A person 18 or older should be able to marry any person over 18 and how ever many people they would like as long its consensual.

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Very small minded people in here..

Does this poster realize the same people who determined legal marriage between a man and woman also determined age of consent? Why 18? Why not 13 or 25 for that matter?

Like marriage no reason the will of the people can change age of consent(heck we already practically do it with drinking age). There are no longer "norms to society" if they can be changed by the whims of a populace.

By the way the only fascists in here are those that want to force a belief with re-defining marriage... but I don't expect those to grasp that notion.

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Does this poster realize the same people who determined legal marriage between a man and woman also determined age of consent? Why 18? Why not 13 or 25 for that matter?

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Exactly. It's actually a cycle that they do not want to see. Even though history has recorded it, they refuse to read/hear it.

Homosexuality was considered a mental disorder in the 60s. The ones who determined that was the APA using the DSM. In 1973 after 3 years of attacks by the gay community, they changed it to "sexual orientation disturbance"... it was voted on and passed by only 58%.

Then you saw moves by states to ban the actions of homosexuals on a local level, state level and national. It was that way for a period of time until the population came to accept that people are born that way therefore should be protected and have all rights including marriage. It took what? 40 years?

These same people will determine that things like pedophilia is a sexual orientation.

The cycle has started. One of the heroes of the gay movement fought to include them early on. Hay refused to march if they were not included. So he wore a sign stating "I walk with NAMBLA". Last year, pedophilia was almost changed much the same way homosexuality was in 1973 via the DSM.

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This is an one such movement to remove it as a sexual orientation. Their key words "born that way"

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We understand that the attraction to children or adolescents is both sexual and emotional, and that individuals do not choose to have these feelings. People who are attracted to minors usually recognize their feelings in adolescence or young adulthood, and feel that they are very different from other persons.

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We realize that other than their sexual and emotional feelings toward minors, minor-attracted people do not have any particular characteristics in common. They vary as do all people, and it is inaccurate to claim that all or most minor-attracted people have certain beliefs or personalities, exhibit psychopathology or specific personality disorders, or engage in particular behaviors. We do not assume that they abuse children, that they are prone to deception or violence, or that their sexual feelings are more compulsive or uncontrollable than other people’s. We see clients as individuals, not as a category.

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We see minor-attracted people as whole human beings, not as dangerous criminals or “deviants.”

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The fact is the APA has slowly begun to change that. Here is a history of it.:

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the past decade have been “ripe with controversy.” In DSM-3, for example, the “APA said that one who acted upon one’s sexual attraction to children was a pedophile,” noted Liberty Counsel. But by the fourth edition of the DSM, the APA had “changed the criteria,” continued the pro-family group, “saying that pedophilia was only a disorder if it 'caused clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning.'”

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See the difference in that?

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Then came the notorious Rind study on child sexual abuse, which “concluded that man-boy 'consensual' relationships were not necessarily harmful,” recalled Liberty Counsel. “Following the public outcry of the Rind study, APA said moral values trumped the scientific study.”

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Once the battle turns and their is less "outcry", the APA will change it and all laws will apply to them.