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re: Fox News Commericals...Doomsday Prep

Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:34 pm to
I'd like to get some emergency food just to have some.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:38 pm to
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There's a difference between emergency preparedness and hunkering down for the apocalypse.


^This
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:50 pm to
All the swishy moderates will learn the very hard way...always been that way throughout history of world...as Aristotle said,"Nothing new under the sun!"...2500 years ago...somethings don't change...
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7509 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:56 pm to
Phil,

What's your opinion of Alex Jones?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:11 pm to
If the power goes out, running water is no longer available?

You will not die without food after 3 weeks. Especially the fat slobs with massive fat stores. And that's assuming you are starting with zero food in your fridge and pantries.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:13 pm to
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Think about this. If something happens and power goes out for any extended time, people die without water in 3 days and food in 3 weeks. Stuck in your house, how long would you last?

In densly populated areas crime for survival will be almost instant.

Now consider who runs the grid and and everything that could cause it to go down.

It's not far fetched to think it's a good idea to be able to survive a few months on your own instead of being dependant on the gov.
There is a general consensus among many that the world is reaching a tipping point ...

1 - the average American is completely dependent upon a 72 hour food supply cycle supported by their local grocery store, drive through fast food and our home delivery of meals.

2 - riots, pillaging, burning have become more common, more accepted, more expected. Lines have been blurred that call into question the distinction between modern civility and modern savagery.

3 - a different element, one intent on social anarchy, now exists within this country and their intent is to eventually disrupt the power grid and/or the fresh water supply. That is their collective dream and they endeavor to either contribute to societal collapse or to stand by and survive it happening to those who are unprepared. It is a story as old as humankind itself as illustrated in the grasshopper and the ant fable. The Ant and the Grasshopper (Book by Aesop).LINK

4 - there is, some might argue, a basic human instinct, one genetically embedded, to go underground in the event of major emergencies. Given all of the issues the world faces these days, from over population to terrorism to radical extremists governments having nukes to NEOs buzzing us from out of the darkness of space to fear of poisoned water to fear of invasion to fear of the grid going down from whatever means be it solar flair or EMP ....

.... it's only a matter of time.

Smart people prepare. It's insurance for their family and loved ones just as is auto insurance, life insurance, major medical and homeowner's insurance.

It was also fast becoming a lost art until Katrina happened and then 9/11 and so on and so forth .... when people finally began to realize that the government cannot save you, will not come rushing to your aid and you're gonna need to get along on your own for awhile.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:19 pm to
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Man o man...25yr old freeze dried lasagna sounds awesome!


Most of that stuff is crap. Loaded with salt and tastes pretty bad. Go with something like Mountainhouse, fairly decent stuff. There are better alternatives.

I guess you don't remember Katrina?

Heck, if you live on the southern gulf, you are completely stupid not to have provisions to last a few weeks.

And yeah, I am somewhat a 'prepper', I have a few months set back just in case. I guess my time in the military and the crap I saw oversees ingrained it into me.

Remember when the EBT card system went down for a few hours, about 3 or 4 years ago. The lemmings were about to go crazy because they could get their stuff at Wal-marks.

Point is, be prepared. Will we see a true SHTF in good ole America? Probably not but then again, it could.

I think the closest that America came to a true SHTF was during the Great Depression during the 1930/40s.

A smaller version was in NOLA during Katrina.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:29 pm to
dpd, I see you are from Thibodaux...what part of town?

Ill answer you Jones question next
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7509 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:32 pm to
Grew up in BCC. Live on the other end of town now. You?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:34 pm to
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There's a difference between emergency preparedness and hunkering down for the apocalypse. The worst are the gold and silver commercials. No matter what's happening with the price, it's a buy signal. Market peak? Buy more. Lost half its value in 6 months? Buy more.

They target the fearful and gullible.



The fearful and gullible is what you are IMHO.

Smart investors have for a couple of centuries diversified with their investments to hedge their bets against various swings in the market. Depending upon their age and stage and in general they go 50% stocks and bonds, 25% real estate, 15% savings of some sort and 10% precious metals. Those percentage change over time, again according to age and stage.


But back to the prepper mindset these days.

Much of what is driving the market, and it has become a market all unto itself, are not only the constant reminders on the nightly news but also a plethora of movies, books and TV shows touting everything from total social collapse due to EMP blasts (1 Second After) to virus mutations that cause human metamorphosis (I Am Legend, Walking Dead, etc), to reality shows that pit people against themselves in survival situations .... the shows and movies and books are literally endless.


It is being inserted into our collective psyche from every angle possible, day and night.

In the history of the modern human species there is usually a reason for this and it involves self fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:36 pm to
Alex Jones has been around for quite a while...he first was on short wave and then on just a few am stations...but he's hit it much bigger lately on the internet...he's no dummy, if that's what you mean...he also has some decent connections in military intelligence and some abc agencies...he's a little too dramatic for my taste...but because of my confident nature, I'm not above learning from any source, be it the right or the left...I'm a maverick thinker...and have explored most ideas in poetry form...so I fear no man or woman intellectually...I've traveled the world and debated some of the smartest people from every continent...Chinese, Jews, Russians, etc.. you name it and I've tried to pick their brains...does that answer yoyr question somewhat?
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7509 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:45 pm to
I just think the whole thing is preying on people's paranoia. 8 years ago, the mentality of most on this board (includIng me) was that Obama was the worst thing ever to happen to America. He was gonna totally destroy America. And here, 8 years later, my life is better in every way than when he took office. The country is stable. There hasn't been a large scale international war globally since 1945. There is literally zero threat we could be invaded, and barring Putin going completely loco, we're probably not going through a nuclear holocaust anytime soon. There is no realistic threat with any meaningful statistical probablility of actually happening in my lifetime that would require me to have a fallout shelter and years worth of rations.

Yeah, I grab some gasoline, dry goods and water during hurricane season. Yeah, I keep a few hundred rounds of ammo around the house. I have fishing tackle and hunting gear. I have a boat. I have medicine and first aid supplies.

But, damn... I don't lose sleep thinking the apocalypse is around the corner waiting to strike. Just seems silly to me.

Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Yeah, I grab some gasoline, dry goods and water during hurricane season. Yeah, I keep a few hundred rounds of ammo around the house. I have fishing tackle and hunting gear. I have a boat. I have medicine and first aid supplies.

But, damn... I don't lose sleep thinking the apocalypse is around the corner waiting to strike. Just seems silly to me.



No one is losing sleep over it that I know of. Know one I know personally is thinking TEOTWAWKI 24/7. But sure, different people prepare in different ways.

Those of us who are older raised by parents who survived the Great Depression and/or confiscation of our gold ... yeah, we're prone to prep a little harder and pass it on to our kids and grandkids.

You prep ... you're a weekend prepper, a short term guy.

Some of us look at it differently. It's part of a lifestyle. You put a little back here and there every month and all of the sudden you're good for a year and then you start rotating and fine tuning. The six Fs of prepping. Fresh water, Food, Fuel, Fire, First Aid, Firearms.

More and more people of all sorts are very casually going about doing it these days. No one is forcing anyone. It's a cottage industry, like everything else you make your own choices.

Some people, like myself, consider ammo a precious metal.

Tell me this.

Which was the better investment in 1985 ... an ounce of gold or 1000 rounds of surplus milspec ammo in let's say x39 or x51 or even 5.56 x 45?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:04 pm to
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Everyone should have a couple weeks worth of stuff in case of disaster.




Louisianians, of all people, should know that. The hubris of some people is astounding.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:13 pm to
dpd, I've been studying economics for 50 years...the rules have been drastically changed by the Federal Reserve...the reason that times have been so seemingly smooth over the last 8 years is because the FED has created roughly 10 trillion dollars out of thin air and taken interest rates to zero or such...all the central banks of the western world are cooperating together to manipulate the markets...they have been borrowing from your future, trust me on that...the chickens are going to come home to roost...it's very convelouted and would take much more time to explain...what's happening is unprecedented...so this is why so many people have been wrong on things like gold,etc...one day I will go further explaining if you want...btw, do you ever go dancing at Gabbys? lol lol
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:53 pm to
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There is literally zero threat we could be invaded, and barring Putin going completely loco, we're probably not going through a nuclear holocaust anytime soon. There is no realistic threat with any meaningful statistical probablility of actually happening in my lifetime that would require me to have a fallout shelter and years worth of rations.


Your seem to have it all covered , other than the multiple organizations in the world that would like nothing better than to destroy the U.S. We have North Korea very close to having a nuke tipped ICBM, or the Iranians or renegade Russian military providing some extremist group with a nuke, who puts it on a container ship and brings it into a U.S> port. Then there are dirty bombs, contaminated water supplys, sabotaged utility systems.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:03 am to
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Remember when the EBT card system went down for a few hours, about 3 or 4 years ago. The lemmings were about to go crazy because they could get their stuff at Wal-marks.


The credit card system have also become over load preceding some of the storms with people trying to buy supplies, and gas. I always keep a decent amount of cash on hand and have emergency cash stashed in my vehicles has helped me avoid the madness of those that try to prep for a storm at the last minute.

I addition to hurricanes those in the south also face potential situations form chemical mishaps at the plants, you may be required to shelter in place or evacuate at a moments notice,
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:10 am to
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OK, clown..I have a question...Why are so many millionaires and billionaires buying underground estates that are prepared to spend months or more in the mountains of Colorado? Just the facts!
hey dipshit, where is all this underground stuff - facts - like names?
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:43 am to


You know that's the crowd that eats that stuff up.

Hell, my parents are in that crowd
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