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Strannix
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He says the program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaida's terror network by connecting fragmented and fleeting communications.




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In ruling, the judge noted the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and how the phone data-collection system could have helped investigators connect the dots before


What does this have to do whether this is constitutional or not? Why would he even have this in his opinion?


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This.

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Judge Pauley invokes Youngstown, writing that the President’s power is at its zenith when acting pursuant to Congressional authorization to protect national security.


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He needs to reread the 4th Amendment again and why it was written to keep the King Geroges off our backs.


He simply applies Smith.

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The Supreme Court held in Smith that individuals have no “legitimate expectation of privacy” regarding the telephone numbers they dial.


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Moreover, Judge Pauley writes, “[t]he ACLU’s pleading reveals a fundamental misapprehension about ownership of telephony metadata.” The ACLU’s motion for preliminary injunction asks the government to refrain from collecting “Plaintiffs’ call records,” to quarantine “all of Plaintiffs’ call records” already collected, and to prohibit the government from querying metadata using numbers associated with the Plaintiffs. But the business records created by Verizon are not Plaintiff’s records—they are Verizon’s. At the same time, the collection of “breathtaking amounts of information unprotected by the Fourth Amendment does not transform that sweep into a Fourth Amendment search.” The ubiquity of cellphones lastly does not affect the analysis required by Smith.






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Lima Whiskey
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The headlines overhype what we're actually doing.

This isn't Enemy of the State.


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He dismissed a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU did not immediately respond to a message for comment.


Just curious what right wingers think of the ACLU these days.


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