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re: FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December

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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74033 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:01 am to
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Its bad if NN goes away bc ISPs can make certain aspects of the internet unusable.



Like what? And what changes from what we have currently? I have no idea about this
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:02 am to
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Nothing I said is a fake scare tactic.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:03 am to
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You do realize there are private toll roads in the US correct?

That is what I'm referring to.


Yes, but they are almost never the exclusive route between two points.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66456 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:04 am to
There goes Kodi
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21277 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:06 am to
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Ive lived in multiple big cities and I've never had more than two realistic options for internet


Then you are lying or have a weird definition of realistic

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43342 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:07 am to
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Yes, but they are almost never the exclusive route between two points.


Neither are ISPs.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:07 am to
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restricting traffic will lead to censorship, esp of publications that certain ISPs think don't agree with their political views.
You think Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. don't do this already? We should regulate them too, right?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:08 am to
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There goes Kodi



If your ISP is a cable company far more than Kodi is going to be throttled.

Do you recon Cox might want to slow down say Netflix, Hulu, etc, and pimp their own service or lets say CBS buys one and decides to put the screws on the SEC network to improve their own ratings?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:10 am to
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Then you should know we don't have a free market with ISPs....

Um..........I revert back to my original response to you regarding your understanding of the term free market.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:11 am to
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Then you are lying or have a weird definition of realistic



What do you mean? most areas just have AT&T and then a cable provider (Cox, Time Warner, etc) What are the other realistic options for a regular broadband connection?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21277 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:11 am to
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The vast majority of folks have far less realistic options, satellite and cellular are not very viable for most.


Let's talk about vast majority
quote:

U.S. Cities are Home to 62.7 Percent of the U.S. Population, but Comprise Just 3.5 Percent of Land Area


quote:

Rural areas cover 97 percent of the nation’s land area but contain 19.3 percent of the population (about 60 million people)


Google census for your links.

There are talking points and then there are actual facts.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63599 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:12 am to
That dude is such a hack
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66456 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:13 am to
Kodi will be unusable. That will literally be broken for all Kodi users.

Russian must work for the FCC. I already pay for internet. Why should I pay more for YouTube or to stream Netflix? It doesn't cost the provider any more to give me access to that content than it does CNN.com.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422924 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:13 am to
this situation pisses me off

government has fricked with the markets so much that various levels created mini-monopolies and then the market gets blamed when it faces an uphill battle to correct the problem

this is possibly the perfect argument to reference in future discussions of government interference, b/c we see how terrible the results are
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:14 am to
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Um..........I revert back to my original response to you regarding your understanding of the term free market.
They think “free” market means “don’t have to pay”.

Should a person be able to demand a full page ad in a newspaper under “print neutrality”? Maybe they should demand TV stations run their shows under “broadcast neutrality”?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21277 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:15 am to
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realistic options for a regular broadband connection


And that is the problem right there. High speed broadband is the Cadillac of service. You think you are entitled to best of the best, like it is a right in the Constitution.

People being able to stream videos on youtube, facebook, etc. is not a freaking right.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:16 am to

And quite frankly the bigger story... is congress relaxing the last vestiges of media ownership rules. You know the media companies the statists think the FCC will regulate...

But...mug net neutrality!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125422 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:16 am to
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Let's talk about vast majority


and most major cities you still only have a couple options.....

Usually Cox and Comcast
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53556 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:16 am to
The ISP shouldn't be charging you more to use specific websites. But, for a guy like me in the stone age who pretty much uses the internet for message boards and email, I don't think it's unreasonable for the ISP to charge a family of six streaming TV and movies all day more than me. You wanna cut that cord? Well, there's a price.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:19 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:18 am to
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most areas just have AT&T and then a cable provider (Cox, Time Warner, etc) What are the other realistic options for a regular broadband connection?
Simple question. Why wouldn’t those single service areas charge $10,000/mo. for basic service?
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:19 am
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