Ending "Trump is no conservative"

Since I responded in another thread and hose people ran, I thought we could move it to a thread specifically about it.

There are variants of conservatism. The main one talked about here is Fiscal(though not understood).

Conservatism morphed under Clinton due to the social issues facing that time. Social conservatives came to the front lines.

Since the Obama Admin, the people who claimed to be conservative gave in to many liberal social issues. For the sake of the GOP... they sought to push those people out. If you accept LBGT as normal, you are NOT conservative by your own logic. THESE ARE THE GENERATIONS that do not understand what conservatism is.


Nigel Farage said something GREAT at CPAC. He stated (paraphrase) that we are seeing the return of Nation states. Globalism is a new endeavor. Turning back toward Statehood is a conservative idea.

THESE ARE THE VARIOUS FORMS


There is Liberal Conservatism that exalts three tenets of Burkean conservatism, namely the diffidence toward the power of the state, the preference of liberty over equality and patriotism, while rejecting the three remaining tenets, namely loyalty to traditional institutions and hierarchies, scepticism regarding progress and elitism.

It is the Liberal Conservatism that the GOP adopted. it is what MOST here have been taught and believe conservatism to be. Yep.. You are part liberal!

Fiscal conservatism states that government action should focus on moral and social questions and oppose government action to help the poor, to regulate the economy, or to protect the environment. They believe that government programs that seek to provide services and opportunities for the poor actually encourage dependence and reduce self-reliance. It is a political-economic philosophy regarding fiscal policy and fiscal responsibility advocating low taxes, reduced government spending and minimal government debt. Free trade, deregulation of the economy, lower taxes, and privatization are defining qualities of fiscal conservatism. Fiscal conservatism follows the same philosophical outlook of classical liberalism and economic liberalism regarding fiscal matters.
Yep... You have some Liberal blood in you.


The last one I want to talk about is National conservatism. It is heavily oriented towards the traditional family and social stability as well as in favour of limiting immigration. It promotes patriotism as well as enacting law-and-order policies. National conservatives can be distinguished from fiscal conservatives in free market economic policies.

Find Trump in those. To say Trump isn't conservative is simply not true.

1- He's not falling under the Liberal Conservatism in that he is promoting patriotism. But has a toe in it because he does reject the elitism and progressive policies.

2- Fiscal... Alot of his policies do fall here. He's all about self reliance. He's for lowering taxes, minimal Gov debt, Deregulation.

3- He is huge in to family, Social stability, Limiting immigration, promotes patriotism, he is the law and order guy and he is a fair trade guy.


So again.. Trump is more conservative than ANY BUSH has ever been. He is more conservative then most of the GOPE. He is more conservative than many here who think they are conservative and the only ones who can fall under the label.