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re: Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:55 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:55 pm to DawgsLife
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After WWII they thought if the major nations of the world were to band together, there would be less chances of a Germany invading other countries again.
It has evolved and changed since then
That's not true. The Treaty of Brussels and blockade of Berlin by the Soviets led to the idea of a common defense pact, not the threat of German invasion.
The Soviets asked to join in 1954, but were rebuffed because it was thought their goal was to undermine the organization. West Germany joined in 1955, as they had needed manpower to resist a Soviet invasion.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:56 pm to Bench McElroy
What a child Trump is. Same for all of you who think this was cute.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 12:59 pm to Bench McElroy
Good for Donald Trump.
It's amazing how European countries are basically allowed to cheat on their other expenses like healthcare, infrastructure, energy and whatnot when we help pay for their defense expenses.
It's amazing how European countries are basically allowed to cheat on their other expenses like healthcare, infrastructure, energy and whatnot when we help pay for their defense expenses.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:00 pm to half cajun
So you think we should be footing the bill for every international organization and group we are in?
You do realize we are trillions in debt.
You do realize we are trillions in debt.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:01 pm to LSU1NSEC
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straight up idiot - embarrassing
It doesn't matter how many times you call Trump every slur in the book, the simple fact remains that your candidate actually lost to someone you think is beneath you.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:03 pm to 14&Counting
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Wut?....NATO was formed for the purpose of providing a defense umbrella when the Soviet army occupied eastern Europe. It was formed principally as a defense against the Soviet Union
He was getting NATO mixed up with the united Nations.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:04 pm to Magician2
I think it's a serious subject that requires an adult conversation, not a cute little gimmick that makes his base supporters wet themselves with excitement.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:20 pm to Errerrerrwere
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believe in polls anymore?
This
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:48 pm to Strannix
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They spent it all on handouts for immigrants
While I know that would mean more to the "I hate brown people" crowd they actually spent that money on subsidizing industries in direct competition with the United States....you handed them that money so you labor and your production would have more competition....and many of you are all in on doing even more of it to the tune of some $50 Billion additional dollars this year....
Germany allows those brown people in because they will eventually be working in low wage jobs that a shrinking native German population can afford not to work in. Their is no compassion involved outside of the people....the government, ran by the aristocracy the same as ours, is bringing in workers.
Will those workers change the culture in Germany? When has imported cheap labor not done so?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 1:54 pm to JLivermore
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Either pay up or don't expect to be in charge of the EU.
We didn't create the EU to allow Germany to rule it under their interests, we created it to keep their arse in line and aligned with our interests.
Jumping Christ almighty....The EU is a result of US Military spending and its purpose is the same as all US military spending...to provide safe markets for the goods and services of the global aristocracy....Europe is very volatile....without the stablelization of the globe by the US Military...not just in NATO spending but the whole picture...Europe may not be in a position to trade and that would mean that the wealthy around the world would have to spend money on wars and shite instead of personal wealth....
Trump is spot on with this....but it ain't just NATO and he can hand out invoices left and right when he increases military spending it sends the message that the US is going to increase its role in policing the world and Germany and the rest will spend even less.
It takes X amount of money to secure the world in its present state.....you and I pay for almost the majority of that cost....we are going to pay for more of it....and the rest of the world is going to have more resources available to use on other issues.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:01 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I haven't heard he refused to shake her hand. I kind of doubt it.
Get out much?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:08 pm to crazy4lsu
See post below
I HATE it when I do stuff like this!
I HATE it when I do stuff like this!
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:10 pm to bencoleman
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He was getting NATO mixed up with the united Nations.
CRAP! You are right. i was writing NATO and thinking United nations the whole time!
My apologies and thanks for clearing it up!
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:16 pm to islandtiger
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I haven't heard he refused to shake her hand. I kind of doubt it.
Get out much?
I could be wrong, because it is hard to tell what happened and what did not....but I don't think he refused to shake her hand. I think he just neglected to offer his hand to he as is customary. He said that it was not meant as a slight, that they had been talking beofre hand and that it just didn't occur to him to shake her hand for the photo ops pictures.
AGAIN I might be wrong.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:26 pm to DawgsLife
I was just commenting on your statement that you hadn't heard he refused. The report is that photographers wanted a photo of the two leaders shaking hands, Merkel asked if he wanted to shake hands and there was no response from Trump...kind of awkward, to say the least. The admins spin was that it was loud in the room and Trump did not hear the requests...could be true, we will never know.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:30 pm to half cajun
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What a child Trump is. Same for all of you who think this was cute.
I thought Trump's treatment of Merkle was an embarrassment. They is a lot to criticize Merkle about but being out in front rude to her, the leader of Germany, was just wrong.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:39 pm to Bench McElroy
Krauts are such cheapskates.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 2:44 pm to DawgsLife
trump was asked to shake her hand as all presidents do.trump refused.Simple as that.He's doing our country no favors by being an arse.
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