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re: DOJ reportedly asked Ferguson cops not to release robbery video

Posted on 8/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
I would also like to add that even dogs know not to shite in their own cage.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62402 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 3:55 pm to
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Keep treating people like animals and then expect them to not act like it.


That's why they don't want you to feed the bears..Do away with food stamps, too...
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:17 pm to
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The FPD is under attack





I think some of the FPD's past behavior has come into play here also. The situation has gotten out of hand and I'm sure there is plenty of blame to go around, I know that everyone that has participated in the looting can't be put in jail but they are despicable sub-human garbage that should be made to live in those burned out neighborhoods and businesses should be forbidden to rebuild.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:21 pm to
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They predicted, correctly it seems, that the video would inflame racial tensions.
The Obama administration just doesn't have any luck when it comes to videos inciting violence. At least our ambassador to Missouri wasn't killed when the natives stormed our consulate in Ferguson.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20888 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:33 pm to
I think it was relevant to the young mans state of mind at the time of the incident with the cop.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35379 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:45 pm to
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DOJ reportedly asked Ferguson cops not to release robbery video
I wouldn't trust the Ferguson cops in any of this. It sounds like BS.

Thursday still would have been 5 days after the shooting. Holding out on the video gives the witnesses more time to speak aka more time to put their foot in their mouth. Plus the way they handled it on Friday was a complete cluster.

I can see the local PD being resentful that the feds are looking over their shoulder on this.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61234 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:15 pm to
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I think it was relevant to the young mans state of mind at the time of the incident with the cop.
Agreed. If Brown had just robbed a store and assaulted the store owner, and then gets pulled over by the cops, one would expect that he might panic.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29166 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:15 pm to
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Any time Jesse and Al show up somewhere, it's a complete clusterfrick. They do not go to make peace. They go to stir shite up


It's how they make their living. Hate mongering. But it's those other people that are racists...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42553 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:43 pm to
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The video constituted CHARACTER REVELATION.

Thank you - I have been waiting for someone to make this assessment.

All that is being assassinated is the false narrative about the "sweet young child, on his knees pleading for his life before that evil racist white storm-trooper shot him in cold blood."

There is no doubt in my mind that the robbery was a seminal event in the shooting - whether the cop knew the details or not. Brown certainly knew that he had robbed a store and strong-armed the clerk just moments before and must have suspected he was being detained for that offense. Hence his attitude and actions to either intimidate the officer or over-power him to get away.

While this may be an example of over-zealous law enforcement, the overwhelming blame for this tragedy rests with the criminal.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98607 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:13 pm to
Complicated their racial show trial
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:15 pm to
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How is it character assassination? I would see character assassination as showing something that could view out of context or viewed without having the entire story. That's not the case here, the video clearly shows a racists move by brown when he stole and physically intimidated a minority store owner.

Huh? Certainly Brown was a bully and a thug but I didn't see anything racist about his actions, unless you think that racism MUST be involved whenever a member of one race commits a crime against a member of another race.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:16 pm to
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The video constituted CHARACTER REVELATION

Did hell freeze over? You got something right.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:22 pm to
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I love how the star witness is the other robber of the store. Excuse me. I meant "hero." The man is a hero.

If you go back and look at the video, Dorian Johnson didn't take anything from the store. Brown gave him some cigars but he placed them on the counter before he left. Also, Johnson told the police and the FBI about Brown stealing the cigars when they question him after the shooting. The only Johnson is guilty of is keeping bad company.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:32 pm to
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What say you?


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(Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:03 pm to rb) This is not going to make a difference to the people that are pissed off for racial reasons. They have formed an emotional bond to Mike Brown and they will rationalize the release of the robbery video by saying the video is a character assassination by The Man and an attack on his memory. Ferguson may get even worse.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:38 pm to
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The only Johnson is guilty of is keeping bad company.


well, I mean as long as he wasnt actively participating in a robbery....

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24262 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:02 pm to
The truth shall set you free.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:32 pm to
'gentle giant' is a thug piece of shite, momma knew it, family knew just didnt want the world to know it cuz dollar bills were more than likely just on the horizon.
Posted by Pierre
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5280 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:18 pm to
Everyone jumping to conclusions is wrong, on both sides. I'm glad people are protesting because it got the DOJ involved and there will be solid forensic evidence that puts this case to rest.

I just watched the video of a lifeless 18 yr old. People need to realize that in that community distrust of PD runs deep. Hell, I've seen threads on TD and distrust in PD runs deep here. Different community. Same distrust.

Protestors are what make America great. The police handled them and this situation very poorly. There is never an excuse for riots. It just harms the cause.

The truth is out there and hopefully for all involved it is found. There will be a lot of political and social pressure to get certain results, but I trust in science and the American system to get to the truth.

Prayers to the deceased and his family.

edited: If this was a clean shoot prayers to the deceased, his family, the family of the officer, and the officer.

Random thoughts after watching the 10min video.
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422186 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:37 am to
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Protestors are what make America great.

i disagree

i think protesting is stupid, irrational, and inefficient. most protestors are just trying to feel like their actions matter and are channeling the mythology of the 60s. people don't want to accept the fact that life is amazing now and want to create a shitty perception of life just so that they can feel important "protesting" their deluded self perceptions

Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:54 am to
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i think protesting is stupid, irrational, and inefficient

Do you believe in the 1st Amendment? What do you think people should people do to effect change?
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