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re: Define white privilege. And how is it a "privilege"?

Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:20 pm to
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white privilege is getting benefits from being white.

The term pretends that somehow this privilege trumps all other forms of privilege which of course, is retarded.

Does my kid have more "privilege" from being white than Obama's kids?

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Don't feel guilty about being white, be glad you have it, certainly better than the reverse.
So, being the white son of trailer trash is still better than being the black child of a neurosurgeon?

Interesting.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:20 pm to
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This is stupid and insulting to the actual "bad behavior" of suspecting the well dressed black guy.


To ascribe what SHOULD be as "privilege" is annoying. It is simply the way things ought to be.


It would be like giving a Good Citizenship medal for NOT raping children.

I don't disagree. I am not saying that is the way it should be, just the way it is. And there are a lot of races other than whites and blacks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:20 pm to
White privilege is a made up concept created by white liberals to maintain their power as "protectors and providers" to minorities.

One day, ethnic minorities will wake up and realize these people have absolutely no faith in them and realize they can survive without their help.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:21 pm to
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But I was in india, and I went to take a shite and several indians were doing the same thing. The hotel let me in, and turned the indians away. They were actually dressed nicer than me, but not significantly so.



India has a very well-established class system that is completely, night and day, different from the US. That is a poor example of "white privilege" as it pertains to stateside politics and society.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:23 pm to
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India has a very well-established class system that is completely, night and day, different from the US.

sure, but its an easy example to show that being white gives you certain privileges other races lack.
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That is a poor example of "white privilege" as it pertains to stateside politics and society.

white privilege is not limited to stateside politics and society. Its everywhere. There is first world privilege too.

here is another example of white privilege. US Whites and blacks use cannabis at the same rate but blacks are arrested more frequently.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:26 pm to
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here is another example of white privilege. US Whites and blacks use cannabis at the same rate but blacks are arrested more frequently.

So, you're ONLY variable in this equation is race huh. NO other differences between the two groups of users. Just race. LOL?

Not too good with statistics, are ya?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:27 pm to
Wow my white privilege had me working multiple job in college and I got a nice military uniform with ribbons and medals from multiple conflicts.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:30 pm to
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Kino74
Define white privilege. And how is it a "privilege"?
Wow my white privilege had me working multiple job in college and I got a nice military uniform with ribbons and medals from multiple conflicts.



yeah, but could you walk into a hotel anywhere in the world and take a dump? ... stay on topic ...
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:30 pm to
White privilege is an inherent quality of society. It's being able to go for a walk around your neighborhood at night and not be looked at suspiciously or questioned by police.

Does it exist? Sure. Is it a justifiable excuse to be a lazy frick and not be accountable for your actions? Hell no.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:30 pm to
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sure, but its an easy example to show that being white gives you certain privileges other races lack.


If I walked into certain parts of Detroit, LA, NOLA, Johannesburg, Nairobi, Cairo, Tokyo, Mogadishu or Beijing, I'm sure my whiteness would hinder me greatly and possibly get me killed. So the idea that my color is a universal passport for "privilege" is absurd.


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US Whites and blacks use cannabis at the same rate but blacks are arrested more frequently.


That charge is usually tacked on to other charges or found during an investigation of another possible crime just like the charge of resisting.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:31 pm to
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So, you're ONLY variable in this equation is race huh. NO other differences between the two groups of users. Just race. LOL?

Not too good with statistics, are ya?

Feel free to debunk this
LINK /

I haven't seen any debunking of it, but if you have a link I would love to read it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:33 pm to
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White privilege is an inherent quality of society. It's being able to go for a walk around your neighborhood at night and not be looked at suspiciously or questioned by police.

That's called the "not much crime in my neighborhood" privilege. If the crime rate in the ghetto was what it is in the burbs, a random black dude walking down a street in his neighborhood would garner no more interest than I do in mine.

If you're talking about a black guy walking around in my neighborhood at night, I would simply point out that if my lily white arse takes a stroll on ghetto streets at 2AM, I'm just liable to garner some police attention.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:33 pm to
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If I walked into certain parts of Detroit, LA, NOLA, Johannesburg, Nairobi, Cairo, Tokyo, Mogadishu or Beijing, I'm sure my whiteness would hinder me greatly and possibly get me killed. So the idea that my color is a universal passport for "privilege" is absurd.


White privilege is not a universal passport to everything, its just one area.

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:35 pm to
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That's called the "not much crime in my neighborhood" privilege. If the crime rate in the ghetto was what it is in the burbs, a random black dude walking down a street in his neighborhood would garner no more interest than I do in mine.

If you're talking about a black guy walking around in my neighborhood at night, I would simply point out that if my lily white arse takes a stroll on ghetto streets at 2AM, I'm just liable to garner some police attention.

Totally! Whites aren't the only one who have privilege, and in some cases being white might be a hindrance.

Black privilege, mexican privilege, male privilege, etc exist. Pretty much any sub category is going to have some level of privilege.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Feel free to debunk this

What's to debunk? It is simply making the silly argument that I already scoffed at. Namely the ONLY factor they're looking at is race and use of cannabis. Are you really so daft that you can't think of any other factors that might drive the disparity? Are you really in need of that much intellectual hand holding?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:37 pm to
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I am not saying that is the way it should be, just the way it is.


No. You are accepting bullshite labels.

The situation you described is not "White Privilege". It is simply....being.


Now, were I stopped at that same hotel (assuming I am properly dressed and comporting myself properly) it is an affront upon me. The white dude ahead of me had no 'privilege'. I was treated poorly.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:39 pm to
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White privilege is an inherent quality of society. It's being able to go for a walk around your neighborhood at night and not be looked at suspiciously or questioned by police.



My neighborhood isn't any neighborhood. White people can't just go walk into any neighborhood there is at night.

What a dumb thing to say.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:42 pm to
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That's called the "not much crime in my neighborhood" privilege. If the crime rate in the ghetto was what it is in the burbs, a random black dude walking down a street in his neighborhood would garner no more interest than I do in mine.


This is a pretty big rationalization. The fact is that a wealthy black man living in a wealthy neighborhood is going to tell his kids to stay close to the house after dark, and for good reason.

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If you're talking about a black guy walking around in my neighborhood at night, I would simply point out that if my lily white arse takes a stroll on ghetto streets at 2AM, I'm just liable to garner some police attention.


You'll garner some ghetto attention (for entirely different reasons) but not anymore police attention than anyone else.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to
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The white dude ahead of me had no 'privilege'. I was treated poorly.


Ding ding. BHP is spot on as always.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:43 pm to
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You'll garner some ghetto attention (for entirely different reasons) but not anymore police attention than anyone else.



Yeah right. That's if the police themselves would even dare patrol those neighborhoods at night. You're talking out of your arse here.
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