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re: Define white privilege. And how is it a "privilege"?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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white privilege is getting benefits from being white. An example of this is that a white male or female, who is reasonably dressed, can likely take a shite in any hotel bathroom in the world without being questioned by security at the hotel. white privilege is very real, if you can't see it, just look a little harder. Don't feel guilty about being white, be glad you have it, certainly better than the reverse.
OK
So what am I supposed to do about it, as a white man?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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An example of this is that a white male or female, who is reasonably dressed, can likely take a shite in any hotel bathroom in the world without being questioned by security at the hotel.
What reasonably dressed race would be questioned by security?
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:57 pm to Zach
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Sorry. When I see Beyonce Mr. Pooter goes to sleep.
So fricking what?
JEEBUS!
Why ask ME?
1) I don't give 2 shits about racists
2) I could not care less who anyone finds attractive. I don't care if you think Stacey Dash and Halle Berry are dog shite ugly.
It just seems like an odd question.
Please do not misunderstand. It is not an "inappropriate question"..it is not an "offensive" question. It just makes little sense to me.
I don't know why you may not like pizza or red beans, either. just FYI
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:57 pm to goldennugget
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So what am I supposed to do about it, as a white man?
I don't really think you do anything, checking your privilege is about awareness and attitude.
Feminism does a really shitty job explaining it. And there is a lot of anger on their side. For a group that pushes empathy, they cannot really empathize.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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What reasonably dressed race would be questioned by security?
Depends on the location. I personally have seen people turned away at hotels before. Its a long story, but I saw some indians kicked out of a hotel. granted they didn't belong there, but neither did I. I just went into a really nice hotel to take a shite.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:59 pm to Hawkeye95
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An example of this is that a white male or female, who is reasonably dressed, can likely take a shite in any hotel bathroom in the world without being questioned by security at the hotel.
This is stupid and insulting to the actual "bad behavior" of suspecting the well dressed black guy.
To ascribe what SHOULD be as "privilege" is annoying. It is simply the way things ought to be.
It would be like giving a Good Citizenship medal for NOT raping children.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:00 pm to deltaland
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Over time white people have granted the same rights and opportunity to minorities, who have more rights here than anywhere in the world. In essence, white people granted a privilege to minorities. And since they are still the majority they can also take away that privilege through law.
No. This is exactly why we have a republic and not a direct democracy. It's designed to provide protections to the minority through the judicial system and the constitution.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:02 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Just to clarify I'm not saying that we should change law to take away civil rights.
My point was that with white people being in the vast majority hypothetically if their viewpoint changed they could change the laws. Without white peoples support, minorities couldn't have gained their rights. Therefore white privilege isn't a privilege by definition but rather "majority advantage".
By definition the rights that minorities enjoy could more accurately be called a privilege since technically the majority group in power could take them away.
My point was that with white people being in the vast majority hypothetically if their viewpoint changed they could change the laws. Without white peoples support, minorities couldn't have gained their rights. Therefore white privilege isn't a privilege by definition but rather "majority advantage".
By definition the rights that minorities enjoy could more accurately be called a privilege since technically the majority group in power could take them away.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:02 pm to Hawkeye95
So, are you insinuating that the Indians got kicked out because they were Indian? Do you know what they were doing to get them kicked out? (just trying to understand the story more)
Your story sounds nice, but I find it hard to believe, as I've never seen somebody kicked out of anywhere for using a restroom, just because of their race.
Your story sounds nice, but I find it hard to believe, as I've never seen somebody kicked out of anywhere for using a restroom, just because of their race.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:03 pm to Palmetto08
You're welcome. A lot of people want to hold tightly to any excuse to absolve themselves of their own failures whether that be financially or socially. Back during my first tour in the navy, my best friend was a half Puerto Rican marine from a single mom who had a girlfriend originally from China. Guess which one learned a new language, got into NYU then hired for big bucks at a top company?
There is a clear pattern to being successful and Asians in larger numbers subscribe to that pattern. Strong families who nurture and discipline their children and have a strong commitment to education will more often than not produce winners in society.
Those who do not will, we'll just go 180 on it.
There is a clear pattern to being successful and Asians in larger numbers subscribe to that pattern. Strong families who nurture and discipline their children and have a strong commitment to education will more often than not produce winners in society.
Those who do not will, we'll just go 180 on it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:04 pm to Palmetto08
You're welcome. A lot of people want to hold tightly to any excuse to absolve themselves of their own failures whether that be financially or socially. Back during my first tour in the navy, my best friend was a half Puerto Rican marine from a single mom who had a girlfriend originally from China. Guess which one learned a new language, got into NYU then hired for big bucks at a top company?
There is a clear pattern to being successful and Asians in larger numbers subscribe to that pattern. Strong families who nurture and discipline their children and have a strong commitment to education will more often than not produce winners in society.
Those who do not will, we'll just go 180 on it.
There is a clear pattern to being successful and Asians in larger numbers subscribe to that pattern. Strong families who nurture and discipline their children and have a strong commitment to education will more often than not produce winners in society.
Those who do not will, we'll just go 180 on it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:04 pm to goldennugget
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Yes, because I have been told many times that not finding men attractive makes me a homophobic bigot, even though I am straight.
Really? I'm gonna call BS on this one.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:05 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Why ask ME?
Why not?
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I don't care if you think Stacey Dash and Halle Berry are dog shite ugly.
I don't know who the are so can't judge attractiveness.
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I don't know why you may not like pizza or red beans, either. just FYI
I'm not allowed to eat pizza because the wife doesn't allow cheese in the house. Red beans are OK. Had some this week.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
This sounds like the argument that minorities can't be racist because they don't "hold the power of the majority". These are intangible and undefinable theories that are being accepted as sociological facts.
It's like someone trying to prove that magic is the reason why people like the combination of peanut butter and chocolate.
It's like someone trying to prove that magic is the reason why people like the combination of peanut butter and chocolate.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:06 pm to deltaland
It seems like all I ever hear about white privilege is white people bitching about white privilege.
I have NEVER heard this term or discussed this with a minority.
I have NEVER heard this term or discussed this with a minority.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:10 pm to Hawkeye95
Do you think a black man in a suit and tie would be questioned by security for taking a shite in a hotel?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:14 pm to Zach
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I keep reading that Beyonce is the sexiest thing in the world.
Cancel your subscription to Ebony
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:17 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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So, are you insinuating that the Indians got kicked out because they were Indian? Do you know what they were doing to get them kicked out? (just trying to understand the story more)
its a rather long story. But I was in india, and I went to take a shite and several indians were doing the same thing. The hotel let me in, and turned the indians away. They were actually dressed nicer than me, but not significantly so.
and I agree with green chili tiger. I only hear about white people bitching on the topic, I have never heard a person of color bring it up. Even my feminist friends don't even mention the concept.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:18 pm to Duke
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Don't forget the wholesale slaughter of the indigenous population. Sounds more righteous your way though.
They were so peaceful and loving towards one another before the white man came
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:19 pm to deltaland
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Do you think a black man in a suit and tie would be questioned by security for taking a shite in a hotel?
I think it depends on the hotel, and the location. In most any US city, probably not. In Africa, maybe. The suit will cover up most anything, anywhere. But if you were to put them in more casual clothing, its a different story.
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