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re: Congress opposes Trump on trade tariff.

Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 11:52 pm to
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This is a classic case of government thinking it knows what's best for the economy and being 50 years behind the cutting edge.
The irony is that they'll (rightfully) argue against minimum wage increases, when the basis of those laws are similar (increase wages for workers) and so are the arguments against it (increase consumer costs; greater incentive to replace jobs with technology; etc).

At least someone like Bernie Sanders is consistent with his terrible policy beliefs.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:00 am to
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At least someone like Bernie Sanders is consistent with his terrible policy beliefs.




true dat!

The funny thing about republicans is that they were the "muh free market" guys when Obama was in office, now they are the "muh uncle sugar" party.

Strange. Seems like there may be more that logic and principles at play here.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:02 am to
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Trump is clueless on this.


got elected

i knew and so did he

that congress would not go for it,

he may work with dems.


He is a populist. I don't know what people are expecting, but they better buckle up, because they are about to see a healthy dose of 1960s democrat politics.

I'm sure that Trump's fans will make the adjustment quite nicely.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:11 am to
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When did more gov't involvement, regulation, and taxes become conservative cornerstones.



NO frickING shite

Congress should stand the frick up against punishing companies, and instead push lower corporate taxes and regulations, and drastically lower any costs associated with repatriation.

Trump has a lot of seriously leftist policies that must be fought against, and this is one of them. Problem is, so many of Trump's supporters have stabbed their own brains trying to suck his dick. They have abandoned a ton of previously held beliefssimply because their alpha says so.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:17 am to
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Problem is, so many of Trump's supporters have stabbed their own brains trying to suck his dick. They have abandoned a ton of previously held beliefssimply because their alpha says so.




perfect.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22786 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:22 am to
Republican may very well fight Trump on a bunch of issues. Trump is the only person they seem to have the balls to actually stand up against. They have been caving for the last 8 years.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:32 am to
Your thread title is a lie. They literally cited two reps, neither of which stated how they would vote on the issue.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:39 am to
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They have been caving for the last 8 years


they have always caved. they will cave again. they will do it as long as it makes more sense to cave than it does to fight.

Just like the tea party cucks who backed down as soon as they got to DC.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23751 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:21 am to
The only difference between what Trump proposes and several here espouse is the selective tariffs.

The President Elect(suck on that Cucks) also wants to eliminate regulation, lower the corporate tax rate and repatriate overseas money.

Tariffs will only be used as a last resort and as a necessary tool in negotiations with both companies looking to leave and countries that have taken advantage of Obama and others in trade negotiations.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:53 am to
I would add that a 15% corporate tax rate with some much needed deregulation, would render a tariff on foreign made American goods being imported virtually unneeded.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25577 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:07 am to
Well if those hardcore alt right California republicans oppose it, it's surely doomed by the rest.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23751 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:59 am to
It would only be imposed if it WERE needed.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:31 am to
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Tariffs will only be used as a last resort and as a necessary tool in negotiations with both companies looking to leave and countries that have taken advantage of Obama and others in trade negotiations.



Do you think "selective" tariffs are better?


IOW, he is going to have different laws for different companies/individuals. Sounds like the Rule of Law to me.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124183 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:42 am to
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Do you think "selective" tariffs are better?
The threat is.
But the solution is corporate tax and regulation reform, which is in the cards.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:58 am to
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But the solution is corporate tax and regulation reform, which is in the cards.


Great, that's good. Leave it at that, and shout it from the rooftops. Bring business here because of a good environment.

quote:

The threat is.


Since when is the threat of a selective government tax/punishment/ANYTHING a good thing?

WHAT THE frick HAPPENED TO THE RULE OF LAW, AND EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW?
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 8:00 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10984 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:00 am to
So do y'all believe in capitalism and free trade or bigger government involvement in business?

So confused by this board.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:03 am to
Before Trump this board was nearly 100% free trade. The reversal has been telling.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:07 am to
Awesome melt!! Even edited it to include extra melt!!

Thank you meltman!
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:18 am to
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So do y'all believe in capitalism and free trade or bigger government involvement in business?

So confused by this board.



These people are rooting for a team now. They adapt their policy/ideology to whatever their team is pushing.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23751 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:22 am to
I see nothing wrong with America First. God knows Lurch hasn't worried about that much.

You leave here fine. Take your products with you because if you sell them here you will get the same treatment that US companies get in the markets that these companies move to.I see nothing wrong with that at all.
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