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re: Colorado legislature sends weapons seizure bill to Governor’s desk

Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by oblio
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:12 pm to
Colofornia
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Then why worry about this mythical person?


Because these are the deranged people you have to watch close. If they have to carry a gun on their hip in public then they are looking for a reason to flaunt it or use it. I can almost guarantee you the white guy at cracker barrel fit this description along with every other person that "legally" feels like they have to carry a gun to not be scared.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73533 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Because these are the deranged people you have to watch close.
Just those guys.
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If they have to carry a gun on their hip in public then they are looking for a reason to flaunt it or use it.
My sister did, she carried large amounts of money everyday to the bank.
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I can almost guarantee you the white guy at cracker barrel fit this description along with every other person that "legally" feels like they have to carry a gun to not be scared.
Just Whitey?
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5626 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:21 pm to
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I am sure that the people of Colorado do not care that they are "Worse" than New York or California as long as they do not have mass shootings to worry about


Uhhhh
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36243 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:22 pm to
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The measure would allow a judge to order that a person’s firearms be confiscated if they are deemed a risk to themselves or others.


I'm a conservative, pro 2nd MAGA member and I agree with this.
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:23 pm to
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My sister did, she carried large amounts of money everyday to the bank.


How many people did she have to shoot? probably none

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Just Whitey?


Statistics, and facts show that mass shootings are normally carried out by white men.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73533 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:23 pm to
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How many people did she have to shoot?

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probably none
Correct thankfully.

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Statistics, and facts show that mass shootings are normally carried out by white men.
That's nice Clark.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14063 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:25 pm to
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I or anyone I know have never needed a gun to get myself out of a bad situation.


No one needs a gun, until you need a gun.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57521 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Statistics, and facts show that mass shootings are normally carried out by white men.
do you really want to bring statistics to crime argument? thats like bringing a paper straw to a nuclear war.
This post was edited on 4/1/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57521 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:27 pm to
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'm a conservative, pro 2nd MAGA member
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and I agree with this.
then you are not a
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pro 2nd member
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40905 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:42 pm to
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I am sure that the people of Colorado do not care that they are "Worse" than New York or California as long as they do not have mass shootings to worry about.


There is 0 indication that this law or any red flag/confiscation law is going to stop mass shootings.

All they do is put law abiding people at risk.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:42 pm to
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IF someone is "deemed risk to themselves or others" they should be directly committed to a metal health institute. At which case they would not have access to fire arms.


This All DAMN DAY. No need for additional laws.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13359 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:51 pm to
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So you're saying you need a gun in case that your x-wife attacks you?


So you're saying you shouldn't be able to exercise your right to free speech, unless you can display a need to exercise free speech? No. Inalienable rights are not needs based.

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I don't get it.


That's obvious. My guess is it's because you put your agenda ahead of the rights and liberty that make you a citizen, rather than a subject.

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I or anyone I know have never needed a gun to get myself out of a bad situation.


Stupid argument is still stupid. See above. Note that most estimates are that guns in the hands of law abiding citizens are used in defense, upwards of 2 MILLION times per year.

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I do worry when I walk into somewhere and a guy in cowboy boots, Trump shirt, and cowboy hat has a gun on him thinking he is John Wayne, that is who I worry about.


So, you're a giant pussy, whose agenda dictates that you concern yourself about the person who statistically is much more likely to save your life than take it. Does it hurt being that stupid?
This post was edited on 4/1/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13359 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 2:54 pm to
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I'm a conservative, pro 2nd MAGA member and I agree with this.


No, you aren't.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11180 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 3:01 pm to
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So you're saying you need a gun in case that your x-wife attacks you? I don't get it. I or anyone I know have never needed a gun to get myself out of a bad situation. I do worry when I walk into somewhere and a guy in cowboy boots, Trump shirt, and cowboy hat has a gun on him thinking he is John Wayne, that is who I worry about.




You doing a wonderful job explaining how ignorant your are.
You sound like the kind of person that would call 911 and report a false claim against the "guy in cowboy boots, Trump shirt, and cowboy hat has a gun on him"

You also sound like one of these "just comply" people who argue there is nothing worth dying for so let them rob you.

I shudder to think you tell your GF or wife or daughter, "Just comply, the rape only last a few minutes. Nothing is worth dying for."

You're the kind of person I worry about, because you enable and empower criminals to attack people. You tell them "It's ok to victimize society because I won't fight back."
This post was edited on 4/1/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1807 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Statistics, and facts show that mass shootings are normally carried out by white men.
While your statement is correct, whites are not more likely to be mass shooters. Statistics and facts can be inconvenient: Statista Link - mass shootings by race/ethnicity

Even Slate agrees Slate article

Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36243 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 4:58 pm to
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CarRamrod


So you would be ok with a deranged, psychotic, mentally ill guy just walking through the mall where your daughter is armed to the gills?

Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45764 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Not sure why this is anti gun rights.

Because you are effectively denying someone their constitutional rights for something that they MIGHT do.

What other rights should be suspended for those deemed a risk to themselves or others?
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45764 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 5:08 pm to
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So you're saying you need a gun in case that your x-wife attacks

No, I’m saying my rights are not predicated by needs.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 4/1/19 at 5:18 pm to
Every dude going through a messy divorce with a pissed off woman needs to have a boating accident immediately.
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