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re: Classical Music is Racist

Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56460 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:08 pm to
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Black composers are listed by their first and last names, indicating that they don't reach the higher class of whites.
Because they haven't. Sorry, but Mozart, etc. rank far above anyone they've got, and classical music is the most expressive, purely artistic form of music there is.

There's a reason all of the most iconic movie themes are classical pieces. It's just better for conveying pure emotion. And these racist 'thinkers' know that.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64484 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:10 pm to
I think Mozart was a alien
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9631 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:40 pm to
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Vivaldi was an ordained priest although, by all accounts, not a celibate one.



My understanding is that he was a monk, not a priest.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:58 pm to
Many, many more than just mahler and Strauss.
Paganini, Handel, Braums, Haydn, Rossini.

Our simplified, 4-chord, pachelbel music industry has programmed most of the population to shun complexity.

Part of the Beatles' revolution was rediscovering classical music theory.

Can some contemporary music offer interesting ideas? Yes.
Are they really trying to develop music complexity... or are they trying to lay down a juicy hook to make money?
I'll let you decide.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19408 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 8:08 pm to
If they can’t subvert it, they’ll try and destroy it. We live in crazy times
Posted by bayoucracka
Member since Sep 2015
6822 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 1:22 am to
It’s crazy that I’ve been around long enough to remember when most of this stuff was common sense, then entire generations of people were brainwashed, and now we’re almost having to re-teach common sense. And I’m only in my early 40’s.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16530 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:08 am to
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The proof is that white composers are referred to only by their last name...Beethoven, Chopin, Mozart, etc


By whom?

I know Frédéric Chopin, Wolfgang Motzart, Franz Liszt and I'm only an occasional classic music fan.

I do think this rocks though:
Hungarian Rhapsody #2, FRANZ Liszt

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8539 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:57 am to
Beethoven- Für Elise/ YT

Nas I can/ YT

Mozart Requiem/ YT

Ludacris Coming To America/ YT

Beethoven Sonota 2nd movement/ YT

Wu Tang Clan Impossible/ YT

And there are many more. It is almost as if blacks are appropriating white culture and making money off of it. Also not like they had many blacks in 18th and early 19th century Europe. These fricking people are stupid.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112605 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 8:46 am to
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And there are many more. It is almost as if blacks are appropriating white culture and making money off of it. Also not like they had many blacks in 18th and early 19th century Europe. These fricking people are stupid.


Another issue is major orchestras are committing to 10% black musicians after pressure from activists. The current number of black musicians in these orchestras is 1.7%. They're gonna have to lower some standards.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:13 am to
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It all kicked off with Sir Mixalot getting girls to come up and twerk on the symphony stage.


This is one of the dumbest, most disgusting things i've ever seen.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11405 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:14 am to
Libs hate anything is beautiful
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:36 am to
Listz is my favorite.
So, it was hard for me to say he was underrated.
Liebestraum is the best.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38954 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:46 am to
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Listz is my favorite.

Yikes

quote:

Liebestraum is the best.


It doesn't come close to the average Chopin nocturne.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112605 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:05 pm to
Just remembered another example in the book. One of the classic movie protesters wrote: "If you enjoy Handel's 'Hallelujah Chorus' you're a racist. Because Handel owned stock in a company that shipped slaves."
Handel was given the stock in lieu of cash payment for some performances.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25364 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:09 pm to
Classical music, (as well as art, poetry, and architecture) remind us at a very basic level that the human condition can, and does, aspire to be greater than those who choose to lie in their own filth.

It’s like casting a bright ray of light into the dark shadows.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18895 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 12:14 pm to
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The proof is that white composers are referred to only by their last name...Beethoven, Chopin, Mozart, etc. Black composers are listed by their first and last names, indicating that they don't reach the higher class of whites.



If you only referred to them as Jefferson, Jackson, Washington, etc., fans would confuse the black composers with other folks.
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3833 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 4:20 pm to
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How many of those are there, and what era?!?!
I have no idea. Someone at yourclassical.org likely has that information.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 6:42 pm to
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They're gonna have to lower some standards


That's a little unfair.

Can't wait to hear our own Rockin' Dopsie playing Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez and Albeniz' Asturias on his washboard.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:03 pm to
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I think Mozart was a alien


He could elicit such speculation if you mean it within the context of his absolutely amazing accomplishments.

It was said by those closest to him that it seemed that he would conceptualize the entire composition in his mind before he put it to paper.

Just like Newton in Physics, it would be difficult to assign an accurate I.Q. level to Mozart that's not totally theoretical.

Both are examples of the type of Westerners that absolutely frost panderers and those who have been successfully conditioned to be embarrassed by who and what they are products of.

Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10598 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 7:14 pm to
They're jealous of white folks' talent now?
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