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Classical Music is Racist

Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:24 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:24 am
Just finished next chapter of 'Race Trumps Merit' by Heather McDonald. It's on racist orchestras playing only white music.
A lot of the largest symphony orchestras who play in America's big cities have apologized for past decades of playing just the stuff written by white composers. They promise to do better in achieving equality.

I'm not surprised by that. What's hysterical is the proof that classical music buffs are racist. I put it in the category of 'You can't make this stuff up.'

The proof is that white composers are referred to only by their last name...Beethoven, Chopin, Mozart, etc. Black composers are listed by their first and last names, indicating that they don't reach the higher class of whites.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9360 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:27 am to
It’s definitely a deterrent to a certain kind of person. Some shop owners play it loud outside to annoy the homeless into leaving.

7 eleven owner blasts classical outside
This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:28 am to
as has been stated the entirety of what western civilization is about is American blacks

and the way advertisers portray them

dont watch the video violence
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67977 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:29 am to

Does this mean that the symphony is very safe to attend?
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:41 am to
This woke BS has been going on in the classical music art world for a couple of years.

The MET is driving itself straight outta business with it.
We will see this cycle continue until the backlash ends.

city journal - Swan Song for the Metropolitan Opera Guild
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:45 am to
quote:

The proof is that white composers are referred to only by their last name...Beethoven, Chopin, Mozart, etc. Black composers are listed by their first and last names, indicating that they don't reach the higher class of whites.



Everyone knows who Beethoven, Mozart, etc. is. No one outside of hardcore fans knows Florence Price. And on that note, there's a reason we know certain composers. I'd say Mahler and Strauss are underappreciated before the obscure black composers: everyone should know who those two are, but common knowledge doesn't extend beyond four or five
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:45 am to
quote:

It's on racist orchestras playing only white music.


No doubt Vivaldi was a grand wizard in the klan.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:49 am to
You should not care what they think is racist.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I'd say Mahler and Strauss are underappreciated before the obscure black composers


Especially Mahler. When schoenberg and stravinsky showed up, the writing was on the wall in regard to the end of the Vienna line.
Mahler knew hew was the last of that line.
Bernstein explained it with his lecture of Mahler 9.

"The Unanswered Question"

If you have the time, this is fantastic. About an hour.
Not just Mahler, but an lecture on the 20th century.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260816 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Does this mean that the symphony is very safe to attend?


As long as Tupac fans dont show up.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5918 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 11:46 am to
there are 126 different stations on the car radio and every one can find one they like
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:11 pm to
Popular music is more simplistic, beat-based music.

Classical music is much more complex and based on melody.

Make of it what you will.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:15 pm to
Wait, I was told that Beethoven and Mozart were really black. I can't keep up anymore.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11990 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:40 pm to
Well the orchestras will just have to learn to play wonderful rap music !

Next racist problem up to be attended to?

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21614 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:42 pm to


Isn't classical music culturally white?

Black people should be barred from participating, that's cultural appropriation! (Their rules, not mine.)
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1611 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:43 pm to
"racist" has been over used to the point that it has become meaningless and it's deployment now is farcical
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16459 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:59 pm to
There is a significant appreciation for classical music among Asian cultures. Probably c-rap as well.

Are blacks not allowed to participate at piano recitals?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14017 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Black composers are listed by their first and last names, indicating that they don't reach the higher class of whites.

What about Dre, Pac, Snoop, Diddy, and Cube?
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
Member since Oct 2006
7050 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:28 pm to
Cancel Yo-Yo Ma ! He is the Asian face of white supremacy !!

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:31 pm to
Check the concert schedule and the pieces that will be played each night.

There is a lot of crap being included these days for the sake of wokeism. Don't waste your money if that appears to be the case.

Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart, etc. have endured as supreme talent for these hundreds of years despite wars, pandemics, etc. They will continue to endure well beyond the (hopefully limited) lifetimes of these brainless woke morons.
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