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re: Chicago's bloody 2016 ends with 762 homicides — the biggest spike in 60 years
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:10 pm to Easy
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:10 pm to Easy
quote:
You don't think that it's a big deal that the two largest American cities with the nations most strict gun laws are at all time lows for violent crime?
bro pretty much every city is at "all time low" crime rates right now...except Chicago
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:11 pm to Easy
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You don't think that it's a big deal that the two largest American cities with the nations most strict gun laws are at all time lows for violent crime?
Well, like SFP said, it's been trending that way for some time now, which is why the Chicago story is noteworthy.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:12 pm to BeeFense5
Sorry to make your brain hurt. 
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:13 pm to Easy
quote:Yeah, comparing a big city with some random town of 500 people in South Dakota is an apples to apples comparison.
Comparing salt lake to other American cities of any size? Ok.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:15 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Yeah, comparing a big city with some random town of 500 people in South Dakota is an apples to apples comparison.
I'm a homeless man & the name of my walking city is Crazy Town....population 1
Yesterday I killed myself. The murder rate in my city is 100%, the highest in the nation
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:16 pm to Easy
You aren't making my brain hurt. You made me confused because this topic has nothing to do with obama being from Chicago. It has to do with seeing a ridiculously awful outlier and wondering why. You are the only one that thinks it isn't a political discussion and then try to defend the epic violence numbers which is a weird thing to do in itself
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
You're being intentionally dense.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:this is why I think it's a bit disingenuous to claim Chicago's gun laws play a major role in the increase in violence.
bro pretty much every city is at "all time low" crime rates right now...except Chicago
Doesn't this mean other cities, which have more restrictive laws, have decreasing murder rates?
Disclaimer: I don't support strict gun control
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:18 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is why I think it's a bit disingenuous to claim Chicago's gun laws play a major role in the increase in violence.
well i didn't make that claim
i think it's the Ferguson Effect and a police response of backing off due to the issues they've had in response to some local incidents
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:18 pm to BeeFense5
Republicans.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:19 pm to AjaxFury
You really screwed that up. That's not a homicide.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:20 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Doesn't this mean other cities, which have more restrictive laws, have decreasing murder rates?
It means that whenever you heavily restrict something, it creates a lucrative black market for capitalists to fill the void. You end up with more guns in the hands of the wrong people in this instance.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
I know you didn't, but it seems to be a commonly held belief on here.
quote:yes, and for all I know it could just be street shite.
i think it's the Ferguson Effect and a police response of backing off due to the issues they've had in response to some local incidents
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:20 pm to Easy
Intentionally dense?
You're seemingly incapable of grasping why population size matters. You're either dumb, or are intentionally playing dumb so that you don't have to admit your argument is stupid and void of logic.
You're seemingly incapable of grasping why population size matters. You're either dumb, or are intentionally playing dumb so that you don't have to admit your argument is stupid and void of logic.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:21 pm to Easy
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Easy
You are a special breed of stupid.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:23 pm to PrimeTime Money
The numbers are per 100,000 population. That normalizes the stats. And the statement was that you can compare salt lake to a small city or a large city and it has a higher violent crime rate on average than everywhere else. It's higher than NYC. It's higher than LA. It's higher than El Paso. It's not higher than Detroit or New Orleans, but on average it's higher. Get It?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:23 pm to AjaxFury
Chicago doesn't eve. Have the most restrictive laws.
Again, there are some cities with equally or even harsher gun laws that have a long-term decreasing murder rate. How do you explain that?
Again, there are some cities with equally or even harsher gun laws that have a long-term decreasing murder rate. How do you explain that?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:24 pm to Wild Thang
Ouch. You really got me there. 
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:27 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Police and city officials have lamented the flood of illegal guns into the city, and the crime statistics appeared to support their claims: Police recovered 8,300 illegal guns in 2015, a 20 percent from the previous year.
The dramatic rise in shootings and murders might not be a "gun control law" issue but these numbers prove no one over there is listening to those dumb laws
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:30 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Again, there are some cities with equally or even harsher gun laws that have a long-term decreasing murder rate. How do you explain that?
Maybe most of the murderers from those cities attacked each other & killed that line of DNA & Chicago is catching up to them
Hypothesizing just like you guys & the conclusion doesn't come easily.
Sanctuary cities hiding killers part of the problem? Not sure
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