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re: Cheney unprecedented attack on Obama---really strong criticism of President
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:43 am to TigerMyth36
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:43 am to TigerMyth36
They aren't the ones calling Obama out, hack.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:53 am to trackfan
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Obama never got one deferremnt, much less five
Wow.
Thought I read where barry received a military deferment so he could complete middle school.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:59 am to TigerMyth36
quote:I don't give a pass at all. Before we went in I thought that the stories of buried chemical labs and everything else was bs. But a lot of people who were pretty liberal bought into the idea that the admin wouldn't just lie about stuff like that and believed it in spite of their natural tendencies against Bush.
Sure.continue to give a pass to the overwhelming Democrat support and FUNDING for Iraq.
Tell me, who is the party most responsible for getting us into Iraq? Can you not say that it is 90% The Bush administration?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:02 am to mmcgrath
Absurd. They wouldn't have been there without almost full dem support and FUNDING.
President Clinton was also 100% certain they had chemical weapons.
President Clinton was also 100% certain they had chemical weapons.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:03 am to TigerMyth36
I love how for 8 years we heard how stupid Bush was yet he was somehow able to pull the wool over the eyes of the House & Senate along with all worldwide coalition members.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:07 am to TigerMyth36
quote:We were bombing the heck out of it for a while before he went to Congress. Congress was lied to. Finally, the "funding" part was a bit questionable as well, no?
Absurd. They wouldn't have been there without almost full dem support and FUNDING.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:11 am to TigerMyth36
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Absurd. They wouldn't have been there without almost full dem support and FUNDING.
FYI, the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War, and I have no idea what you mean by "funding". The true patriots are those Senators and Congrssmen who voted against the Iraq War, especially the Republicans who broke rank with their party to vote against it.
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President Clinton was also 100% certain they had chemical weapons.
I couldn't care less what Clinton or anyone else thought, I only care what they did. For the record, I thought Saddam had chemical weapons since I knew we have given them to him and I was still oppoised to the Iraq War.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:11 am to TigerMyth36
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President Clinton
Clinton is the go-to guy for Sudanese aspirin factory bombing raids.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:15 am to Holden Caulfield
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Are you kidding me? Your point, at least I assume it was your point, was that Obama, to his credit, never sought a deferment. I pointed out that there was nothing for him to seek deferment from.
Do you not understand?
Yes I understand, but the fact still remains that Obama never sought a deferrment, and Cheney did five times. We can speculate on what Obama would have done if he were 15 years older, but he's not.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:15 am to I B Freeman
Wait, wasnt the gop and Romney critical of Obama during the last election for NOT getting our people out of Iraq and Afghanistan faster?
Which is it?
Which is it?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:22 am to trackfan
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but the fact still remains that Obama never sought a deferrment
Track, if you want to credit Obama for not doing something he could not have done in any case, then fine.
For future use:
Obama didn't shoot one Indian at Little Big Horn.
Obama never put on women's clothing and snuck onto a lifeboat as the Titanic was going down.
Obama had nothing to do with fixing the 1919 world series.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:23 am to Holden Caulfield
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Obama had nothing to do with fixing the 1919 world series.
Are you sure? Not what I am hearing.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:40 am to redandright
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"Lion of the Senate", Ted Kennedy conspired with the USSR against Reagan.
shite wrapped in skin.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:46 am to I B Freeman
List of Failures:
Fast & Furious
Green Energy Initiative
Obamacare
Entitlement Reform
Immigration Reform
Libya
Iraq
Benghazi
IRS targeting
XL Pipeline
Job creation
Middle Class mobility
Accomplishments:
lowered handicap on the golf course
first "cool" president
Got daughter a job in Hollywood
Let me know if I missed anything.
Fast & Furious
Green Energy Initiative
Obamacare
Entitlement Reform
Immigration Reform
Libya
Iraq
Benghazi
IRS targeting
XL Pipeline
Job creation
Middle Class mobility
Accomplishments:
lowered handicap on the golf course
first "cool" president
Got daughter a job in Hollywood
Let me know if I missed anything.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:01 pm to I B Freeman
frick Cheney. He was a tremendous part of what was wrong with our last administration. frick him.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:02 pm to I B Freeman
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In 1983, President Ronald Reagan said, "If history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom." President Obama is on track to securing his legacy as the man who betrayed our past and squandered our freedom.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:11 pm to I B Freeman
I read that this morning and agree with much of it. However, I found this quote startling:
"Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many."
One could easily apply this line to the decision to invade Iraq.
"Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many."
One could easily apply this line to the decision to invade Iraq.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:41 pm to keepAMERICAstrong
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I am not chiming in to join the argument for/against the validity of Mr. Cheney's remarks. However, I do want to illuminate the fact that this thread is five pages long and there has yet to be anything of substance regarding why Mr. Cheney is wrong.
Both democrats and republicans spend so much time trying to one up each other that they fail to convert anyone to their line of thinking. Ultimately, this type of fighting leaves no side farther ahead than when they began fighting.
Good points. Basically the poli board is tigerdroppings's way of showingcasing its version of Sunni and Shia. No time for substance when beheading is the goal.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:45 pm to trackfan
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For the record, I thought Saddam had chemical weapons since I knew we have given them to him and I was still oppoised to the Iraq War.
Well, some honesty stands out from a bunch of sanctimonious Monday Morning Q-back critics!
I think most every body in the whole damn world was on board with removing Hussein. We all believed he held WMDs, because the pictures of those Kurds holding their babies while choking on their own vomit proved it. And it proved how ruthless Saddam was. And we knew how much he hated us for literally pulling down his pants and spanking him in front of the whole ME. He hated the US with a passion.
And it proved just how committed we were to payback...if challenged. Hell, Qudaffi gave us his nuclear tech when he saw Saddam dragged out of that hole by Marines. Now that is the kind of action that this country is lauded for, and why this World is a better place.
But this thread stinks to high heaven; because it don't change the fact that Bush, Cheney, the Dems, the Clintons and all of us were in for the removal of Saddam (minus Trackfan, and the Doves ). We did that in a couple of weeks.
It's when the compassionate Nation-building began - in hopes that that new Democracy would stand in between Iran and throw a wrench in the whole Islamist hegemony, that it all went bad. The 'rules of engagement' were f'n insane, and a bridge too far. Still, in hindsight, it was a decent bet...and a valiant effort by our forces. Now...we know it's folly to spend money or blood creating Democracy in a Muslim Nation.
You critics of the whole Iraq War, act like you or even Cheney, knew then what you know now; and base current criticism on current knowledge. Fallacious! But more so hurtful to them that fought that war, for good reason. It creates doubt in their minds, and demeans the value of their service and sacrifice. Service rendered to benefit both the good Iraqis, and us, and the whole world. Dick Cheney don't give a crap what fallacious argument/criticism is heaped on him. Nor does anybody who clearly sees the Truth.
Good grief!
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