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re: Cheney unprecedented attack on Obama---really strong criticism of President

Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:18 pm to
I'm torn on this. On the one hand I hate that all the hard work our men and women have done there has gone to utter shite, especially from so little effort (the Iraqi military far outnumbered the ISIS folks, apparently many were just there for the paycheck).

On the other hand, we gave them all the tools to stand up on their own. We can't be holding their hands forever. If you want freedom badly enough, you fricking fight for it. Along with this point, I am so incredibly tired of the world counting on us to not only be the World Police (America, frick YEAH!) but also because those that we help often end up depending on us to keep propping them up.

Sometimes I feel like our leaders suffer from battered spouse syndrome on this. We do everything we can to make the other side better, but eventually they shite on us. Yet we still want to keep going back because maybe one day... ONE DAY... things will be good again.

Our leaders need a fricking intervention.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:19 pm to
Interesting Cheney is so harsh and so confident his policies were right.

I wish there was a republican who could get respected attention about the IRS farce, the children at the border, the prisoner swap Ect.

Those things should have the country in outrage. All worse than Watergate or Lewinsky.

I think the nation is just tired of the BS and the talk. That is a dangerous attitude.

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:22 pm to
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Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many.


That's really rich coming from Cheney.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:23 pm to
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Cheney's column in the Wall Street Journal is really unprecedented.


My opinion? A better word would be "classless."

He is truly the hatchet man he has been described to be.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:24 pm to
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Cheney


Bush era cockroaches can go back in their holes, if anybody should STFU and hide in shame right now it is them
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:34 pm to
I thought Cheney had a change of heart??









:rimshot:
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:35 pm to
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My opinion? A better word would be "classless."



Include Obama in that description. He has run GWB down from Day 1 and still goes to that well when he can.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:39 pm to
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Include Obama in that description. He has run GWB down from Day 1 and still goes to that well when he can.


You are making my point for me. I don't want to be "that guy." I hold myself to a higher standard.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:41 pm to
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Cheney unprecedented attack on Obama---really strong criticism of President
I don't recall a former President or Vice President being so publicly and intentionally critical of sitting President EVER. 


Hmm. Then you don't remember the bush years. Were you drunk and high the whole time, or just not paying attention?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42532 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Bush era cockroaches can go back in their holes, if anybody should STFU and hide in shame right now it is them

That's some pretty bad mojo right there.

Bush has kept his mouth shut - as did his dad, when both were head and shoulders better men and better leaders than the real cockroaches that replaced them.

Cheney has held his tongue far far better than Carter did, or for that matter than Obama himself has done while president.

Seems like you have a bit of stupid mixed in with your DNA = It is about time someone called out this bullshite community organizer we have in the WH.

You guys are so transparent.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:47 pm to
Cheney shouldn't be allowed to hate on anyone, dude is a fricking creep.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:01 pm to
I think Cheney's criticism is a pretty powerful statement.

Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:04 pm to
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I think Cheney's criticism is a pretty powerful statement.



I think of Cheney as a scum piece of dirt, not as a Vice President.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:06 pm to
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Cheney shouldn't be allowed to hate on anyone,


ANY American should be "allowed" to voice his opinion on ANy American politician.



quote:

dude is a fricking creep.


This opinion is allowed


Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Scum piece of dirt
pretty much sums up Obama
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71347 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:18 pm to
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ANY American should be "allowed" to voice his opinion on ANy American politician.



Good point, I was being a little heavy on the Cheney hate.

Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:25 pm to
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I think of Cheney as a scum piece of dirt, not as a Vice President.


How he still gets a platform anywhere is beyond me.
Personally, I think these guys sit around roasting each other, maybe at a card game, and Cheney gets it the worse:

Obama: So old-man-river, how is that baboon heart holding up? (everyone chuckles)
Cheney: Shut up Barack, at least I'm not from Kenya.
Obama: God, you are such a dick. Speaking of which, have you been able to convert that carpet-eating daughter of yours? Oh yeah that's right, you are too busy shooting your best friends on hunting trips. Dick.


I mean, there is so much material out there, and I know I know, my delivery is horrible, but Obama probably gets him good when him and the boys are hanging out.
And then Cheney leaves, feelings hurt, and writes an op-ed for whatever journal offers him $50.

Who knows. He is entertaining though. And good for the left.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:33 pm to
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I thought Cheney had a change of heart??

Probably jumped some poor schmuck on the transplant waiting list.
Posted by trackfan
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:43 pm to
When it comes to foreign policy, if Dick Cheney criticizes you, it probably means you're doing the right thing.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:47 pm to
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Seems to me I remember Obama and other Dem officials prior to him, having no problem going outside country criticizing a GOP President. I'll tell you what's unprecedented, is the constant b!^thcin and moaning by a sitting President about his predecessor. No class whatsoever.

I guess you forget about Reagan's attacks on Carter.
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