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re: CBO: Repealing the ACA will leave 32M Uninsured and Double Premiums by 2026

Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:26 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51261 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:26 am to
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instead of destroying it and ruining 20M people's insurance at the same time.


A huge chunk of that 20 million went on Medicare, not on the marketplace. Medicare that is going to ruin many state budgets in the future because of the expansion.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:26 am to
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Wanna take a guess as to how many people in Kentucky have enrolled in a QHP so far this open enrollment period vs how many receive Medicaid?


Both are part of the law, luckily.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:27 am to
the uninsured will once again line the walls of hospitals, going in for "emergency" treatment of issues that would have been resolved at a tenth the cost under the ACA.

Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:27 am to
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under the ACA.
With multi thousand dollar up front expenses?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19300 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:28 am to
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Wanna take a guess as to how many people in Kentucky have enrolled in a QHP so far this open enrollment period vs how many receive Medicaid?
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Both are part of the law, luckily.


I added this to my previous post but I'll put it here as well.

The only way that you can argue that the ACA has been a success is if you believe that redistributing wealth through the expansion of Medicaid via higher insurance premiums and taxes for the middle class and above is something to strive for.

That is not something that I, nor the majority of Americans, believe.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:28 am to
People forget that the CBO is often wrong because its mandate is to only extrapolate results based on the data provided to them from political leaders/parties.

They do not randomly do an evaluation on programs, laws, taxes, etc and how they will turn out. They only jump into action when asked and will only evaluate, review, and conclude on information and data provided to them.

So the data is always usually skewed, biased, and given to bring about the desired outcome of the people requesting the CBO's findings.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51261 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:28 am to
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the uninsured will once again line the walls of hospitals, going in for "emergency" treatment of issues that would have been resolved at a tenth the cost under the ACA.


With incredibly high deductibles, I doubt much has changed for these types of patients with the ACA.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35955 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:28 am to
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and ruining 20M people's insurance at the same time.


These 20 million people who now have insurance, what is their deductibles?

I know many people in the middle class who have high deductibles now. They have insurance but they can't use it. Their deductibles are too high.

Healthcare costs keep rising as a percent of GDP. I thought they were to level off? What happened?

Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:28 am to
Since 2010 my premiums have gone up over 50%. My deductible has gone up 250% and my max out of pocket/yr has gone up 200%.

Doubling premiums in 10 years would be a slower increase than I am currently experiencing.


Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16856 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
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CBO: Repealing the ACA will leave 32M Uninsured and Double Premiums by 2026



Not repealing it will triple premiums by 2026.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
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This issue is so important to you that you whine on the internet almost daily

He gets his paycheck from the government, he's scared shitless that the gravy train will stop.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
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Tell us more about premium rates.


The increases, on average, or the lowest they've been in decades!

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23161 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
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The increases, on average, or the lowest they've been in decades!







Nope
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
The cost of leaving it in place is that the entire system is on the brink of collapsing on top of itself leaving way more than that without insurance. The cost of allowing the death spiral to happen would make the CBO blush.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68065 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:29 am to
What sort? A pathologist? How do you know it's a "she"?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:30 am to
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I know many people in the middle class who have high deductibles now. They have insurance but they can't use it. Their deductibles are too high.


YAY lower healthcare spending and growth!!!

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34877 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:30 am to
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So the data is always usually skewed, biased, and given to bring about the desired outcome of the people requesting the CBO's findings.


Ding Ding Ding
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51261 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:30 am to
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The increases, on average, or the lowest they've been in decades!


Thanks to government subsidies. For those who don't qualify for the subsidies, that isn't true.

We're paying more money for a lower quality product.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71325 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:32 am to
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The increases, on average, or the lowest they've been in decades!


And why is that?
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