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re: CBO: Repealing the ACA will leave 32M Uninsured and Double Premiums by 2026
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:32 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:32 am to BamaAtl
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CBO and JCT
Are these the same geniuses that predicted health care premiums would drop under Obamacare? If so, they're like the peej of healthcare budgeting.
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:32 am to BamaAtl
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The increases, on average, or the lowest they've been in decades!
Obamacare premiums are expected to go up an average of 22 percent in 2017. The taxpayer will eat the increase.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:32 am to Jake88
Her emotional attachment to ACA is the biggest clue. Just a regular ole lab rat.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:33 am to BamaAtl
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BamaAtl
Melt Day......
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:33 am to BamaAtl
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Pre-existing conditions, for starters.
If you did the responsible thing and carried insurance when you got your first job, you wouldn't have pre-existing conditions. You would just have conditions to which you paid to cover.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:35 am to Tigerdev
quote:Ignorance is bliss,I guess.
promise was made strictly for political reasons to get these idiots to the polls.
You claim to be on a Cadillac Plan. You apparently have no clue as to what that would mean for yo in 5yrs, much less 10.
Just sad!
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:35 am to Aristo
The so-called pre-existing condition was a great bugaboo. It affected so few people, yet everyone hates the bad insurance company because of it. The result: the government gets to frick up the health care market forever!
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:37 am to Aristo
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If you did the responsible thing and carried insurance when you got your first job
Just don't leave that job to start your own business. Can't have the 1/4 of America with a pre-existing condition doing that, now can we?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:37 am to CelticDog
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the uninsured will once again line the walls of hospitals, going in for "emergency" treatment of issues that would have been resolved at a tenth the cost under the ACA.
Hate to break this to you, but trips to the emergency room increased for those "newly insured" by Medicaid and Obamacare crap plans. They are either too lazy to make a doctor's appointment or couldn't find a doctor that would take the shitty plan. That, or their sky-high deductibles necessitated going somewhere they could not be refused.
What a steaming pile of shite.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:37 am to PsychTiger
Here is why Bamatool ignores the questioning of the CBOs data.
Here are some of the most common tricks to make your bill look good and how the health care bill does or doesn't use them:
Tax now, pay later
Delay the pain.
Count on fixes.
Pretend that costs will "sunset."
LINK
Here are some of the most common tricks to make your bill look good and how the health care bill does or doesn't use them:
Tax now, pay later
Delay the pain.
Count on fixes.
Pretend that costs will "sunset."
LINK
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:37 am to BamaAtl
I'll just leave these here... for your reading pleasure.
Forbes Article: Dispelling Obamacare Cost Saving Myths
Think Progress: How Obamacare Will Save The Federal Government $190 Billion
PolitiFact: Brat says Obamacare repeal would save nation more than $2 trillion
Motley Fool: ow Obamacare Could Save Taxpayers $17 Billion
The Hill: Bill gutting ObamaCare would save half-trillion over a decade, CBO finds
The point is -- since ObamaCare's first inception, the Federal Government has bounced around how much the tax payers will pay versus how much they will save. It fluctuates dramatically. Yes, a full repeal will cost money. But NOT repealing it will cost more.
I bet you think that your wife is a genius every time she comes home from PayLess and she tells you, "yes, I already have 3 pairs of these imitation Uggs but this pair normally cost $65 and they were on sale for only $50 -- so we really SAVED $15."
Forbes Article: Dispelling Obamacare Cost Saving Myths
Think Progress: How Obamacare Will Save The Federal Government $190 Billion
PolitiFact: Brat says Obamacare repeal would save nation more than $2 trillion
Motley Fool: ow Obamacare Could Save Taxpayers $17 Billion
The Hill: Bill gutting ObamaCare would save half-trillion over a decade, CBO finds
The point is -- since ObamaCare's first inception, the Federal Government has bounced around how much the tax payers will pay versus how much they will save. It fluctuates dramatically. Yes, a full repeal will cost money. But NOT repealing it will cost more.
I bet you think that your wife is a genius every time she comes home from PayLess and she tells you, "yes, I already have 3 pairs of these imitation Uggs but this pair normally cost $65 and they were on sale for only $50 -- so we really SAVED $15."
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:38 am to BamaAtl
quote:So you've not read the replacement plans?
Pre-existing conditions
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:38 am to doubleb
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Healthcare costs keep rising as a percent of GDP. I thought they were to level off?
They've started to. Still some work to be done!
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:38 am to NC_Tigah
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So you've not read the replacement plans?
There are no replacement plans.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:38 am to BamaAtl
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Just don't leave that job to start your own business. Can't have the 1/4 of America with a pre-existing condition doing that, now can we?
Since when is it the government's job or the insurance company's job to make sure a particular individual can start his own business? That certainly isn't a justification for fricking up the health insurance market.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:39 am to BamaAtl
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There are no replacement plans.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:39 am to BamaAtl
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Just don't leave that job to start your own business.
Not the same as deciding you need insurance after you need insurance.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:41 am to BamaAtl
Is this the same CBO that said the ACA would be deficit neutral?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:41 am to Floating Change Up
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Floating Change Up
Did you read those? The third one has a rating of "false" - not mostly true, not sorta true, flat out false.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:41 am to therick711
This is your bi-annual reminder that the ACA is like the Death Star. It is horrific in its power, but it was designed with an easily exploitable flaw that would destroy it.
The idea was that the people would be so grateful that they "had insurance" that they would clamor for the government to come in and save the system when it inevitably was destroyed from its internal flaw. The Democrats obviously miscalculated. Their new position is Republicans will have to pay if they rid the world of something that is pretty universally unpopular. As long as Republicans take a cue from Trump and quit taking their strategic advice from Democrats, they'll trounce them yet again when Democrats prove out of touch.
The idea was that the people would be so grateful that they "had insurance" that they would clamor for the government to come in and save the system when it inevitably was destroyed from its internal flaw. The Democrats obviously miscalculated. Their new position is Republicans will have to pay if they rid the world of something that is pretty universally unpopular. As long as Republicans take a cue from Trump and quit taking their strategic advice from Democrats, they'll trounce them yet again when Democrats prove out of touch.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 11:43 am
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