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re: Boeing & Lockheed look to move fighter jet production to india.

Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:00 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:00 am to
quote:

Prove where Obama's doing that


Lockheed isn't building F-16s at Ft Worth in any numbers anymore, so you get the option of going to the F-35 or a severance package. Normal actions which have nothing to do with Obama's arms deal.

You are grasping for something to bitch about.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:13 am to
What did you fly in the service
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13403 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:17 am to
Looks as if GE aviation will be getting those contracts now...
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:18 am to
Not going to say, with my screen name etc it's too easy to find out my actual name. I have been in the plant in Ft. Worth.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139792 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:22 am to
2:36am melts are the best melts
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:41 am to
And they can change their country of incorporation too.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:44 am to
You never worked with indians.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50241 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:48 am to
quote:

You conveniently left out the salient fact: quote:The “Make in India” program is supported by President Obama’s outgoing administration, which is looking to strengthen ties with India. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter on Thursday visited India and an official statement said the two countries’ continued cooperation “will strengthen India’s ‘Make in India’ initiative.” A Pentagon spokesperson declined to comment more specifically on the program. So yes if these jobs do go to India, Trump will blame Obama and rightly so. FAIL TROLL


Well, this pathetic troll thread is over.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16916 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 6:50 am to
quote:

Don't blame them with Trump antagonizing Boeing through twitter. A great American company that helped win WWII, and he treats them like they're some fast food joint.

Shameless.




The spin on everything from the left is going to be so great for the next 4 years.
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:06 am to
quote:

So when the Indian government required new jets to replace its aging fleet, any corporation that wanted to be involved knew the planes – an F-16 by Lockheed or F/A-18 by Boeing – would have to be built in India.


Sounds like a solid plan to me. I'm okay with this.

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:08 am to
Guess who is about to be summoned to the Tower of Power?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167109 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:10 am to
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Will Trump blame Obama when they leave or take the credit because some jobs are staying like he did with Carrier?




Obama is pushing for this to happen in India as "good will" gesture. Even fricking CNN the liberal cumrag...I mean news rag said so.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:11 am to
Will TJGator1215 ever realize what the exact issue is in this case?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29649 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:11 am to
quote:

TJGator1215


I'm embarrassed for you.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:14 am to
4 syllables:

Tata.



Nay nay.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:17 am to
quote:

You realize that India paying Boeing and Lockheed to make jets in India doesn't mean jobs would leave the US, right?




I understand India's goal to buy shite for their military made in their nation by their citizens...would that we had been doing this for the last 40 years or so and we wouldn't see the kind of job loss we had over that time period...but are you certain no jobs would be lost in the US? Presumably these planes would be built in existing facilities by existing Boeing and Lockheed employees....take away that added work load and there will have to either be fewer new hires or layoffs.

This is not the same situation as the Carrier situation. If India insists on the planes they buy being built in India by Indians then I don't know what Trump or Boeing or Lockheed can do about that. Carrier intended to move jobs to Mexico in order to manufacture products which would be sold in the United States...in fact they are moving a heaping pile of jobs to Mexico to do just that despite the best efforts of Trump and company. What will be interesting is to see if he makes good on his 35% tariff promise after January 20.

If...and this is a HUGE if....we were not keeping Pakistan and India at arms length from one another for many, many years there is NO way that Lockheed or Boeing would consider investing ANYTHING in India...India wouldn't be in a position to have an air force in the first place because they and pakistan would be constantly involved in pissing contests and someone would have over run them and enslaved their stupid asses years ago.

Trump has said that we are no longer going to do this type of shite for free...we will see....I sincerely doubt that he will make good on that promise BUT I also sincerely doubted he would ever become a serious GOP candidate. If....and again this is a huge IF....but if Trump is sincere about requiring our allies to pay for some of the protection we provide them what better way for India to pay us for keeping Pakistan at arms length than having their new toys built by Americans in the United States? Trump could kill 2 birds with one stone....keep jobs in the US or create new ones AND ask an allie to pay for their protection. We will see. Pull that off and the Trump legitimacy goes up substantially in a lot of minds....
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:22 am to
Or India can do what they planned on doing and buy Migs or the Eurofighter instead.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:22 am to
quote:

It was Obama admin which was selling these F16s to India, with the promise to shift production to sweeten the deal...




Here is the problem...and I ain't doubting this is true...but what the frick business does the President of the United States have going door to door trying to sale Boeing and Lockheed products??? Does he get a commission? Y'all want something to be pissed about think about an elected official going about shilling for a company....and imagine if it were, I don't know, Trojan Condoms. We would all be outraged.....yet we somehow accept as normal the fact that our President goes around the globe as a glorified door to door salesmen for private sector products.

And I doubt if we can survive without it...and that is the truly troubling thing...because other nations are willing to send their leaders on such sales trips.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:24 am to
Will Boeing and Lockheed open a call center in the U.S. to deal with technical problems the Indians encounter?

Would be fitting.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:24 am to
Hillary was front and center in hawking military sales while Secretary.
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