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re: Boeing & Lockheed look to move fighter jet production to india.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:04 am to MrCarton
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:04 am to MrCarton
quote:Aren't going to be made by Dave the former call center assistant in India. Those LRUs ( line replaceable units) will be made here then shipped over and slide in and bingo Avionics suite is complete.
The sensitive items or components
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:06 am to TJGator1215
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:11 am to TJGator1215
So when Boeing wanted to open a plant in the traditionally nonunion Southeast the Dems ran around with there hair on fire! Now threatens to open a plant in India and compromise by building it in the Southeast! No way a Republican congress and Trump buy American fighters made outside of the US. Now the Clinton Crime Family Foundation would probably have resulted in the F-?? being built in China! 
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:34 am to MrCarton
quote:No. That is too absolute. And damn sure not wise if we are speaking of defense technology. No way in hell should we allow the exporting of that manufacturing technology.
manufacturers should be where it is cheapest
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Every penny spent on the military is government consumption AKA waste
No. There is plenty of waste in defense spending, I'm sure. That is a different issue from the defense budget as a part of our national economy...it ain't all waste.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:36 am to OTIS2
quote:What Technology? do you think turning a billet of aluminum into a bulkhead is cosmic?
exporting of that manufacturing technology.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:49 am to Jbird
I think the jets have more sensitive components than molding aluminum, though I'm not certain I support even allowing that technology to be exported, when it comes to weaponry of this type.
Build these things here...sell them to the right buyer. This is not the time to teach India to fish...sell them the damn fish.
Build these things here...sell them to the right buyer. This is not the time to teach India to fish...sell them the damn fish.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:00 am to Jbird
Fighters are always cutting edge in avionics, materials, manufacture techniques, and technology.
You're not punching out coke cans!
You're not punching out coke cans!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:01 am to OTIS2
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No. That is too absolute. And damn sure not wise if we are speaking of defense technology. No way in hell should we allow the exporting of that manufacturing technology.
several points here:
The technology that compromises the wing and airframe is widely known already. it's not proprietary, because we already sold it across the globe. The US sold its F35 design to the Japanese too.
Software and sensitive components don't have to be compromised even if its built in India. That's pretty simple to understand.
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There is plenty of waste in defense spending, I'm sure. That is a different issue from the defense budget as a part of our national economy...it ain't all waste.
All government spending is consumption from an economics standpoint. Every penny.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:01 am to Gaspergou202
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Fighters are always cutting edge in avionics, materials, manufacture techniques, and technology.
You're not punching out coke cans!
Lol, what would jbird know about it?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:03 am to Jbird
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What Technology? do you think turning a billet of aluminum into a bulkhead is cosmic?
That's what im wondering. Its not like the basic concept of an airframe is built on alchemy.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:14 am to MrCarton
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That's what im wondering. Its not like the basic concept of an airframe is built on alchemy.
Airframe alone: choosing different alloys and composites and binding them together. Plus advanced design, stealth technology, and materials.
One wouldn't want an Airbus to sneak up on a controll tower, but that comes in handy if you want to turn it into rubble!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:21 am to Gaspergou202
quote:The F-16 is mid seventies technology.
Fighters are always cutting edge in avionics, materials, manufacture techniques, and technology.
The Avionics suite will not be built in India it will be built by Lockheed and a ton of sub contractors just like the always have, they will be gray boxes slid into the airframe in India by wait for it, Lockheed peeps.
Those gray boxes (when they fail) will be sent to Hill AFB to be repaired at the depot or Air Logistic Center to be precise. Or maybe to the prime vendor.
They will not be repaired in India.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:23 am to Gaspergou202
quote:The F-16 doesn't have some super secret design.
Plus advanced design, stealth technology, and materials.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:29 am to Jbird
Understood it is considered "old" in some ways. Would still rather build and sell, than show my consumer how to cut me out of the market. And I'd like to maintain a little more control over the end user of my weaponly , if possible.
Just call me dumb that way. Guess I'm just not enough of a Globalist to get this. Get the hell off my lawn!!
Just call me dumb that way. Guess I'm just not enough of a Globalist to get this. Get the hell off my lawn!!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:34 am to Jbird
They're like tinker toys
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:38 am to Choctaw
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would you fly a jet made in India?
I've never known where the planes ive been on were made.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:39 am to OTIS2
quote:They aren't all support and the technology will reside with Lockheed. They are going to be an assembly line that's all.
Would still rather build and sell, than show my consumer how to cut me out of the market
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:45 am to Gaspergou202
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Airframe alone: choosing different alloys and composites and binding them together. Plus advanced design, stealth technology, and materials.
This is an F16 man.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:59 am to CelticDog
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You never worked with indians.
Yes I have. Many many times
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:03 am to Choctaw
quote:Do they smell like curry?
quote:You never worked with indians. Yes I have. Many many times
I keed I keed!
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