re: Bill Nye beatdown.

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but I will never defend ignorance.

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Then don't defend yourself coming back to another Nye thread after yesterday.

But the challenge still stands:
Please provide a Nye quote incorporating the term "ice age" from that interview that does not include scientifically false information.

I like Bill Nye.

I think Bill Nye had a great show and exposed a lot of people to the scientific method and basic scientific facts and made it "fun" for kids.

However, Bill Nye has a mechanical engineering background. I am a mechanical engineer with the same background and I also went and pursued a Masters in the field.

I can say, without a doubt, I have learned nothing about climatology in any of my classes, at any of my jobs, or in any of my research. Neither has any of my colleagues.

Bill Nye is not an expert in the field and is no more qualified to speak about it than a veterinarian or computer software developer.

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No it doesn't. It didn't "stand" in that thread and it doesn't "stand" in this thread.

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Okay, here it sits.

Please provide a Nye quote incorporating the term "ice age" from that interview that does not include scientifically false information.

Take your time.

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.the last time the earth was 400ppm the oceans were 5 to 40 mtrs higher...those changes are going to happen now. New York City, New Orleans...gone.

that is going to happen, period

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If you have the data to make this prediction then you have the data to give some estimated date. So when will this happen? Next year? Ten years from now? Thirty?

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To use them putting out more CO2 than us as a talking point is pretty dumb

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More CO2 than us?
We are a developed economy. China and India are not.
So again, as they continue to develop, WTF is the CO2 reduction proposal?

No, he's right. China's investment in renewable energy is pretty immense.

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You've been duped.

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Ah yes, when in doubt, fake news.

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Ah yes, when in doubt, fake news.

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China has no intention of disadvantaging itself economically to reduce carbon output. Zero!

There are major issues driving China's "Carbon Policy" none of which has the least to do with altruistic desire to "save the planet".
(1) China has limited fossil fuel resources (ffr)
(2) 2° to #1, China is in constant pursuit of alternative energy sources, e.g., hydro, solar
(3) Coal represents a very large % of what FFRs China does possess.
(4) Chinese coal burns dirty (see #5)
(5) For 3 decades China took far more interest in fast energy production, than clean energy production. As a result, it's cities are massively polluted. Residents are unhappy about it. There is pressure on Xi to reduce urban smog. Were it not for that, China would continue as is, indefinitely.
(6) If by participating in "Climate Conferences", China can convince developed countries to disadvantage themselves, therefore allowing China to close the gap, it will do anything to achieve that end.

You've been duped.