re: Baylor University Survey On Religion: 'Almost No Atheists Voted For Trump'

Seems to me like most Christians don't wear glasses. You know who does wear glasses? NERDS. Who happen to be disproportionately atheist

Jesus healed the blind atheist and he became a seeing Christian. Maybe he could do the same for the atheists in this thread

Lol...my my how arrogant and condescending of you! I can say this much...if you "bought into" anything you were using counterfeit money.

And for someone who values proof(might I also add your version of proof) that unsourced definition is pretty weak to prove anything, in particular that I believe anything absent proof.

So let me ask you this.. do you drive? If so you are placing unfounded faith in all sorts of things...other drivers, the people who made your car, etc...you have no proof that any of these things won't go afoul and kill you...freaking kill you and maybe give you a painful exit in the process...yet you leap out on faith and drive. You're placing your life in a whole mountain of unfounded proof you will get to your destination safely. Man, what a dumbass UNLESS you have faith that the other drivers will stay in their lane and that the brakes will work from your experienced based off the initial faith you expressed to learn how to drive. You have NO proof these other drivers will follow the laws or you won't have mechanical failure but you, from making the choice to drive, have seen enough evidence to believe your life is not in jeopardy every time you hit the road. Now if I was averse to driving and I see these nasty wrecks on TV or hear about them on the radio...what proof could you offer me that it won't happen the moment I started driving? You couldn't offer me any but you still would hop in your car and drive based off your experience and what you know to be the way driving works. You would also think "man until dude starts driving and makes that leap of faith, he will never know what he is missing out on".

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So let me ask you this.. do you drive? If so you are placing unfounded faith in all sorts of things...other drivers, the people who made your car, etc...you have no proof that any of these things won't go afoul and kill you...freaking kill you and maybe give you a painful exit in the process...yet you leap out on faith and drive.

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This is a poor example. I don't have faith that I won't be killed. That's why I drive defensively and stay off the road during drinking holidays. You are discussing risk management. Not faith.

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A survey done by another liberal university.

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Baylor is far from Liberal.

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Some people are born in worse shape than others due to the providence of God by means of physical corruption of our bodies as a result of the fall.

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I'm not trying to be flip but are you saying people have poor eyesight because of Eve?

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That's not even close to being correct.

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It's correct. Your emotions don't change that.

Expected. People who believe that it's 'one life and done' with no accountability and whose ultimate Value can only be their Self/Mother Nature will surely vote for the Secular Humanist Candidate. Outside of God (belief/ validation) that is the default.

You can further book that they (Atheists) will support Fascist Ideology, I.e., ultimate State control, across the board. Because the highest (morality based) form of Self worship/Narcissism would be Egalitarianism; the ludicrous assumption that all people are 'equal'. In fact that ALL is relative, and thereby 'equal'. Think Relative Morality across the cultural spectrum; a total rejection and dissolution of traditional (God-based) Morality for the Egalitarian version. That is what we are witnessing in the current cultural/political dynamic.

Progressive Ideology - absolute Fascism/Egalitarianism - is on the rise. There is little (rational) basis to refute it, as the God Paradigm is a matter of SUBJECTIVE (a-rational) BELIEF. Jesus said that "My Kingdom is not of this World", IMO, He implied that like His Father, such exist as a matter of abstract Spirit...with only the Individual's free-willed validation making absolute difference. Quantum Theory also backs up this possibility; that the most basic interaction of a Perceiver can ALTER Empirical Reality.

Either we create our 'Selves' by the force of our chose belief and action, and we move forward toward a more powerful (knowledgeable/*Heaven*) expression of that which we aspire to...or we become Matter Mulch - eternally so - with no feeling or regrets for what was and could be...and the tragic loss of the love therein. The Atheist can have my share of that.

PS..."logic and reason" dictates - for the common good - that Humanity should unload themselves of the most incurable forms of the Species who burden ultimate survival and prosperity. For the Atheist...that would be Trump (God Paradigm) and for the God version...that would be Secular Progressives/Fascists. Not rocket science. Polar First Principles

This distinction between saying "I believe that there is no god" and "I do not know if there is or is not a God" is a very important one and, in my opinion, is the reason we have both atheist and agnostic.

I consider myself the latter. Atheists tend to favor the religious a lot.

I'm an atheist and I voted for Trump. For years, I was the only atheist I knew. But a few years ago I joined an atheist social group on the Northshore. Met a couple dozen fellow atheists who were all nice people, but they are almost all raging liberals. Also, most of them were not from Louisiana originally. I ended up leaving the group because I just couldn't handle all of their "racist, homophobic, xenophobic, bigot" crap once Trump popped up on the political scene. Also, they were a little too heavy on the anti-religion stuff. I get it, but I'm trending more towards "live and let live."

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Atheists are the most ignorant people on earth.

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Bold statement from someone who believes in a God and his son born of virgin birth, that the majority of this earth doesn't believe in and thinks you are a silly petty person. A religion that wasnt even the first of its kind under monotheism terms, and was invented thousands of years after other belief systems. But sure, your made up god is important than all the other made up gods that predated your made up god.