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re: Baylor University Survey On Religion: 'Almost No Atheists Voted For Trump'
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:37 pm to ScrapPack
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:37 pm to ScrapPack
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To believe that life and the universe is accidential is more fantastic than believing that it was designed by a creator. Just my humble opinion.
I think basic cellular life by accident isn't far fetched.
Sentient life that exists with a conscience is a whole different ballgame. And the way the earth exists to support life, the way nature adapts and reproduces, repairs itself, etc isn't by accident. It's too perfectly designed to be an accident. Think about the way us humans have discovered, invented, explored the world around us. We have accomplished feats that are Godlike in itself time and time again. It only makes sense that we were created in His image. Hell we have harnessed the energy of the world to such an extent that we could destroy our earth almost as fast as God himself could (nuclear warheads).
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:41 pm to CommoDawg
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CommoDawg
You know which groups overwhelmingly believe in a God? Blacks, Muslims and the poorest 10% of Americans. Tell me- do you feel those individuals are stupid, too?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:38 pm to ChewyDante
quote:Thank you for your well-reasoned rebuttal full of specific examples
Holy God, you are full of so much shite it's hard to know where to even begin . You establish LOTS of false premises from which you then draw your invalid conclusions and ever present condescension. Once again, perfect example of what I mentioned earlier.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:39 pm to EA6B
quote:I urge you to repent of your atheism and trust in Jesus Christ, the only one who can take away your sins.
I have been a atheist since around age 10 when Sunday school teachers first started trying to fill my head with this nonsense like this.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:42 pm to AUbused
quote:So.. you don't believe that God exists, given the qualifications that you provided. Thank you. That's what I asked and you answered. That is more or less the same answer an atheist would provide to the same question, which was my point.
Im not even sure how to answer that question. I certainly dont believe in the judeo christian God or Allah etc. I also find it unlikely that there is a singular entity actively directing all affairs but I can't rule it out.
quote:Understood, but because you do not believe positively that God exists, you are on equal ground with the atheist who also does not believe positively that God exists.
Earlier you used the term "believe positively". I do not believe positively or negatively.
The difference between you and the atheist is the reasoning you provide for your unbelief.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:53 pm to Crimson1st
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Lol...my my how arrogant and condescending of you! I can say this much...if you "bought into" anything you were using counterfeit money.
Definitions and factual information may seem arrogant and condescending to someone that refuses to accept either.
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And for someone who values proof(might I also add your version of proof) that unsourced definition is pretty weak to prove anything, in particular that I believe anything absent proof.
You need me to provide sources for you on the English language? I certainly hope not. I'll let you walk that one back because I'm nice like that.
Also, "my version" of proof is consistent with the term. Yours is whatever your preacher man tells you weekly.
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So let me ask you this.. do you drive? If so you are placing unfounded faith in all sorts of things...other drivers, the people who made your car, etc...you have no proof that any of these things won't go afoul and kill you...freaking kill you and maybe give you a painful exit in the process...yet you leap out on faith and drive. You're placing your life in a whole mountain of unfounded proof you will get to your destination safely. Man, what a dumbass UNLESS you have faith that the other drivers will stay in their lane and that the brakes will work from your experienced based off the initial faith you expressed to learn how to drive. You have NO proof these other drivers will follow the laws or you won't have mechanical failure but you, from making the choice to drive, have seen enough evidence to believe your life is not in jeopardy every time you hit the road. Now if I was averse to driving and I see these nasty wrecks on TV or hear about them on the radio...what proof could you offer me that it won't happen the moment I started driving? You couldn't offer me any but you still would hop in your car and drive based off your experience and what you know to be the way driving works. You would also think "man until dude starts driving and makes that leap of faith, he will never know what he is missing out on".
This is a stupid analogy. I drive, but I don't do so believing that there's a magical person who built the road and will take care of me if only I believe really hard and mean it like a motherfricker. I don't place faith in anyone when I drive down the street. I accept that I can't control everything, and no mythology is going to protect me. It isn't "placing my life" in someone's hands. It isn't faith that tells me I will probably be OK to head out to dinner. It's reason and probability. Likely, I'll not be killed if I'm not driving like an idiot. That certainly isn't a guarantee, and having "faith" that I won't would be childish and stupid. Like religion.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:55 pm to McLemore
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But now you buy your own?
No. As I've experienced life and become more educated, I'm far less wasteful with my currency.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:15 pm to FooManChoo
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Thank you for your well-reasoned rebuttal full of specific examples
Yes, let me waste my time responding to your tomes by having to walk you through how to formulate a logically valid statement and argument. Particularly when it's about as apparent as could be that your philosophy and methods of argumentation are locked in religious stone.
Nah, I'm good. Believe whatever the frick you want.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:18 pm to ChewyDante
quote:If I'm participating in a logical fallacy, I'm more than happy to change my method of argumentation even if the core of my position remains intact. If you'd like to point out any fallacies, I'll be happy to listen.
Yes, let me waste my time responding to your tomes by having to walk you through how to formulate a logically valid statement and argument. Particularly when it's about as apparent as could be that your philosophy and methods of argumentation are locked in religious stone.
quote:I will, thanks. I'd urge you to change your own beliefs, though.
Nah, I'm good. Believe whatever the frick you want.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:19 pm to CommoDawg
Atheists are usually lame as frick philosophy majors who couldnt pass a calc class to save thier lives
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:29 pm to FooManChoo
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I'd urge you to change your own beliefs, though
Right, because if I simply BELIEVE then the all powerful entity will suddenly view my soul as worth saving. Makes sense.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:32 pm to ChewyDante
Definitely a good idea. The dude will eventually and always fall back to "that's just what I believe." Ultimately, that's all he has. He's just oddly averse to admitting it.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:33 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Atheists are usually lame as frick philosophy majors who couldnt pass a calc class to save thier lives
I've found the opposite to be correct.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:33 pm to Wolfhound45
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Wolfhound45
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No. As I've experienced life and become more educated, I'm far less wasteful with my currency
This is a belief system.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:37 pm to McLemore
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This is a belief system.
No it isn't.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:41 pm to ctiger69
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Atheists are the most ignorant people on earth
While I didn't agree with their political views and many just weren't the kind of people I'd normally hang out with, most of the ones I met were very intelligent people.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:44 pm to ChewyDante
No dog in a personal hunt, CD, or to sway your own belief...just for the 'record'. To the degree that you BELIEVE in Love...it exists; "powerful entity" nws. Same with Beauty. Things of the 'Spirit' can not be verified in an Empirical sense, are they are totally subjective. Especially the "powerful entity", which (assuming the basis of Matter/Energy is Conscious Intellect)...could not even begin to be quantified/qualified, given it's infinite magnitude...and our extremely limited version (of Conscious Intellect).
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:50 pm to RCDfan1950
That's fine. No one is telling anyone not to stick to their fairy tales. The biggest concern is when religion makes special claims of authority, and uses this imagined authority to legislate the lives of others, regardless of belief or lack of the same. That's my biggest issue anyway.
Your analogy isn't particularly useful because of that.
Your analogy isn't particularly useful because of that.
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