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re: Baton Rouge moving the goalposts yet again for St George
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:33 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:33 am to Oilfieldbiology
i don't understand what that has to do with the need for more schools in the new city
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:34 am to Machine
You do realize there is one public high school in the proposed city? Of course you do, you pointed this out
Pretty damning indictment of the city parish government if in the fastest growing area of the parish that we have one HS to support a population of 85,000 people. In what way does that suggest that part of the parish is being properly served by the current system?
Will it cost money to build a school system? Sure. Will it cost much more than what they are paying for now? Probably not
People didn’t flee to the St George area. That has been the growth corridor of EBR for 30 years. Why wasn’t the area incorporated piece by piece as it grew? You know why.
Pretty damning indictment of the city parish government if in the fastest growing area of the parish that we have one HS to support a population of 85,000 people. In what way does that suggest that part of the parish is being properly served by the current system?
Will it cost money to build a school system? Sure. Will it cost much more than what they are paying for now? Probably not
People didn’t flee to the St George area. That has been the growth corridor of EBR for 30 years. Why wasn’t the area incorporated piece by piece as it grew? You know why.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:40 am to Machine
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This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:41 am to LSUBadger
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You do realize there is one public high school in the proposed city? Of course you do, you pointed this out
Pretty damning indictment of the city parish government if in the fastest growing area of the parish that we have one HS to support a population of 85,000 people. In what way does that suggest that part of the parish is being properly served by the current system?
Will it cost money to build a school system? Sure. Will it cost much more than what they are paying for now? Probably not
People didn’t flee to the St George area. That has been the growth corridor of EBR for 30 years. Why wasn’t the area incorporated piece by piece as it grew? You know why.
what steps have the SG proponents taken to better the city, before resorting to breaking away?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:43 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Kids growing up near Woodlawn are not zoned to go to it, rather have to get on a bus and go across town to McKinley, Lee High (before it was magnet) or Tara.
the move away from neighborhood schools was definitely a huge mistake for the city
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All the organizers wanted was a school district locally where their kids could go to school. Instead they were met with derision, cries of racism, and now hysteria because the city of BR didn’t think they had the balls to challenge them.
because it didn't do anything to address the failing EBR schools, and would make it even worse for BR residents...why in gods name would anybody in the current city limits be for that?
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:43 am to NPComb
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Fixed it for you. It's not a black thing - it's a culcha thing. I know several hard working blacks in my area that live in St George that support it. There's a reason they don't want to live near Machine's "upper middle class" neighborhoods.
You are right, I know many hard working blacks as well that shouldn’t be grouped with the “culcha” problems of BR and other dem lead hell holes
Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:43 am to Machine
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they want to allow everybody that will be affected by this to vote on it???
I won't be affected but I sure will vote for it.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:04 am to Machine
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what steps have the SG proponents taken to better the city, before resorting to breaking away?
You do realize SG is not breaking away from the City of Baton Rouge or of anything else for that matter, right?
They are just seeking to go from unincorporated part of EBR to an incorporated city within EBR.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:06 am to Machine
LOL you think St. George families live in double wides. Their is a reason Broome is freaking out. She knows the money is in St. George, not the shithole they call North BR.
Oh, and since you mentioned you are in your 30's, where do your kids attend school?
Oh, and since you mentioned you are in your 30's, where do your kids attend school?
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:13 am to NorthEnd
This is how it works. The government dregs will not allow the people to choose to leave, once the people realize they are being taken advantage of. Look at Brexit. The British people voted to leave the EU 3 years ago. They’re still part of the EU today, and no closer than they were at the start. The EU will not allow them to leave
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:14 am to Machine
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i'm trying to explain why people in the parish that aren't as well off as i am, think they should have a voice.
This is only a problem because currently the taxes that come from the piece of unincorporated area that would be St. George, is used to subsidize the city of Baton Rouge.
Let's say River Ridge decided to become their own city. You would't see residents of Kenner or Harahan throwing a fit. Why? Because tax money from River Ridge isn't being used to subsidize city operations in Kenner or Harahan.
This is 100 percent a problem of corrupt BR politicians taking advantage of the stupid, stupid, stupid consolidation of BR and EBR Parish.
I understand why the residents of BR are upset. But their anger is misdirected.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:17 am to Upperdecker
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The EU will not allow them to leave
Meh. Most of the EU wants them gone. The MPs in the UK have realized, though, that they get more from the EU than they give up, and that Brexit will financially and in other ways hurt the UK. The only way to fix that is for UK to cut spending / raise revenue so they can be self-sufficient.
In that regard, though, the politicians of BR are acting like the MPs in the UK.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:19 am to LSULaw2009
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You do realize SG is not breaking away from the City of Baton Rouge or of anything else for that matter, right?
They are just seeking to go from unincorporated part of EBR to an incorporated city within EBR.
With the stupid metro system of government, that ties the city of BR to the parish of EBR, though, the argument is much more complicated. The stupid way the city and the parish are tied together, it kind of IS the people of St. George breaking away from the city of BR.
Not that I blame though - I completely support them if that's what they want to do. But everyone needs to realize that because of the stupid arse consolidated government, the entire calculus is different from what it should be.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:20 am to Machine
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what steps have the SG proponents taken to better the city, before resorting to breaking away?
Asked for more resources to be allocated to their area.
Asked for better schools for their area.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:36 am to LSUFanHouston
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Asked for better schools for their area.
exactly
asked for better schools in their area
who gives a f**k about EBR schools, i just want my kids to have cheap, quality education
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:42 am to Machine
Everyone in the parish with the exception of north baton rouge should be allowed to vote on it.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:01 am to Machine
They have paid a significant percentage of the total taxes collected in EBR for years and years. While paying those taxes, many had to pull money out off their pockets to pay for their kids to go to private schools
In addition; they didn’t abondon EBR. They stayed. They didn’t run off to AP or LP. They sucked it up and stayed in their preferred community. They have voted repeatedly for Green Light initiatives. They voted to increase spending for the school system as building fell into disrepair. They have made EBR better but you question their contributions?
Man. I live in the city but I support SG because keeping these folks in EBR is a win. I support them eventually having a school system will help the whole of the community as businesses will be able to attract more and better employees because between solid magnet schools, Zachary, Central, SG, AP and LP the area will have school choices that do not make us look like a third world capital
In addition; they didn’t abondon EBR. They stayed. They didn’t run off to AP or LP. They sucked it up and stayed in their preferred community. They have voted repeatedly for Green Light initiatives. They voted to increase spending for the school system as building fell into disrepair. They have made EBR better but you question their contributions?
Man. I live in the city but I support SG because keeping these folks in EBR is a win. I support them eventually having a school system will help the whole of the community as businesses will be able to attract more and better employees because between solid magnet schools, Zachary, Central, SG, AP and LP the area will have school choices that do not make us look like a third world capital
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:04 am to LSUFanHouston
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With the stupid metro system of government, that ties the city of BR to the parish of EBR, though, the argument is much more complicated. The stupid way the city and the parish are tied together, it kind of IS the people of St. George breaking away from the city of BR.
Not that I blame though - I completely support them if that's what they want to do. But everyone needs to realize that because of the stupid arse consolidated government, the entire calculus is different from what it should be.
Funny. No one seemed to be all that upset when Baker, Zachary and Central "broke away"? I don't recall bills advocating the necessity of a parish wide vote to determine whether those areas should be able to "break away" from the school system even though they are, last I checked, still located in East Baton Rouge Parish.
Is St. George threatening to start their own parish? And if the Together BR folks think SG is such a HORRIBLE idea, then why interfere with those stupid SG people desperately seeking to shoot themselves in the foot?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:05 am to Machine
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my property taxes will in all likelihood increase if SG happens,
Are you trying to persuade people to vote FOR SG???
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:13 am to Erin Go Bragh
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You don't change rules in the middle of a game. This is a disgusting act of putting the will of the people at the back of the line.
I live in St George and I say frick St George. So my will counts too.
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