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Axelrod on Clinton: "It takes a lot of work to lose to Donald Trump"

Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:50 pm
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"It takes a lot of work to lose to Donald Trump," Axelrod told CNN on Wednesday. "Let me tell you, he was the least popular presidential candidate to win in the history of polling."

Clinton on Tuesday said she takes responsibility for her 2016 presidential election loss, but added she would have won if not for FBI Director James Comey, Russian hackers and WikiLeaks.


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But Jim Comey didn't tell her not to campaign in Wisconsin after the convention. Jim Comey didn't say don't put any resources into Michigan until the final week of the campaign," he continued.

"And one of the things that hindered her in the campaign was a sense that she never fully was willing to take responsibility for her mistakes, particularly that server."

Axelrod then offered a piece of advice for Clinton.

"If I were her, if I were advising her, I would say, 'Don't do this. Don't go back and appear as if you're shifting responsibility.' ... She said the words 'I'm responsible,' but the — everything else suggested that she doesn't really feel that way," he said.
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:55 pm to
She is the only one that had a shot. He would have crushed Bernie even worse.
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:56 pm to
someone said it on here the other day.

The only person to blame for Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton. She was the only choice worse than Trump. I actually agree.
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
and it totally couldn't be her shitty personality that lost it for her
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
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She is the only one that had a shot. He would have crushed Bernie even worse.


Grade A delusion.

Bernie may have lost because of a third party run eating into his support but there are tons of others who would have won easily.
Posted by Rakim
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:58 pm to
I don't get why the Democrats let her buy the nomination?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:58 pm to
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"It takes a lot of work to lose to Donald Trump," Axelrod told CNN on Wednesday. "Let me tell you, he was the least popular presidential candidate to win in the history of polling."


WTF does that even mean?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:59 pm to
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She is the only one that had a shot. He would have crushed Bernie even worse.


I honestly don't agree. I think Bernie was Trump's only real possible competition. It was the fact that so many young people in the midwest thought it was "cool" to vote for Trump that put him over the top. It would not have been "cooler" to vote for Trump than for Bernie Sanders. While the young broke for Hillary, their turnout was abysmal, and many actually voted for Trump because Hillary was literally the least cool human being possible. Bernie was like a savior to these people. The youth would have shown up along with many of the union factory workers that came out for Trump and been Bernie Bros all of the way. I think that would have been just enough to put Sanders over the top.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:01 pm to
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I don't get why the Democrats let her buy the nomination?
Same collective action problem that got Donald Trump nominated, just inverted. If everyone put the knife in at once she could've been brought down but nobody wanted to be Casca.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:01 pm to
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WTF does that even mean?


It's not hard to understand and it's true. His negative rating (people polled that said they couldn't stand him) was the highest by any major party candidate ever to win.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:01 pm to
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someone said it on here the other day.

The only person to blame for Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton. She was the only choice worse than Trump. I actually agree.


100% agree with this statement. Trump was the weakest Presidential candidate of my lifetime. Hate to say it but Kerry or Biden would have blown Trump out. TPP is the issue that killed Hillary.
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Bernie may have lost because of a third party run eating into his support but there are tons of others who would have won easily.


Name one... Bernie would have turned out younger voters but the senior citizens with the exception other West Coast would have rejected him and he would Trump would have flipped VA and NH to have an even bigger blowout.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Bernie may have lost because of a third party run eating into his support but there are tons of others who would have won easily.


Name 3.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Same collective action problem that got Donald Trump nominated, just inverted. If everyone put the knife in at once she could've been brought down but nobody wanted to be Casca.


That's ridiculous, the entire field did their absolute best to destroy Trump. Name someone that didn't come after Trump?
Posted by SFVtiger
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:03 pm to
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shitty personality


that would be a deplorable personality
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
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That's ridiculous, the entire field did their absolute best to destroy Trump.
That's why I said inverted. With Trump the problem was too many people wanted a piece of him, everyone hung around longer than they should.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Same collective action problem that got Donald Trump nominated, just inverted. If everyone put the knife in at once she could've been brought down but nobody wanted to be Casca.


The republican primaries had 17 all fairly legit candidates.

The dems had a single cranky old socialist hippie nutbag as opposition (yeah, I know there was that one other guy nobody remembers who slept walked through a single debate before bowing out).
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
The reason HIllary was the nominee is the same reason she isn't in jail right now. Her and Bill have dirt on everyone.

"nominate me or else"

"indict me and I blab"

Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
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That's why I said inverted. With Trump the problem was too many people wanted a piece of him and there was no effort to clear the field.


Gotcha
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Trump was the weakest Presidential candidate of my lifetime.


John McCain and Bob Dole say hello... You could throw Mitt Romney in there as well...
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 1:06 pm
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