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re: Amazon and Jeff Bezos murdered those people at the warehouse hit by tornado.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:42 pm to pankReb
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:42 pm to pankReb
When they wanted to leave, there was no storm in the area. They were told they had to stay, 20 minutes went by before it hit. I understand if sirens were going off and they said I wanna go, but were not allowed too.
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:47 pm to mizslu314
No business has ever let ppl go during a storm watch. There are procedures for this, just like kids at school. You can’t predict anything and nobody can predict a storm or trying to leave. It would probably take most more than 20 mins to go home, not to count the time to walk to vehicle then get out of the parking lot.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:54 pm to pankReb
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You realize that no one can predict the exact path of a tornado right? Please tell me you realize that....
You can predict a general area that it could head to next. The Tuscaloosa tornado for example. If you lived in Bham then you knew there was a chance you could get hit by it.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:57 pm to momentoftruth87
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No business has ever let ppl go during a storm watch. There are procedures for this, just like kids at school. You can’t predict anything and nobody can predict a storm or trying to leave. It would probably take most more than 20 mins to go home, not to count the time to walk to vehicle then get out of the parking lot.
I agree with you for most storms, but the people had more than an hour of advanced notice that this thing was going to be within 30 miles of them.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:32 pm to troyt37
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How about if your facility is being built for 50 or more workers? Or some number. It’s not that difficult, or expensive.
Explain why 50 workers isn’t just an arbitrary number that you came up with. Why do you hate workplace safety in places with less than 50 employees?
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It’s not that difficult, or expensive.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:34 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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agree with you for most storms, but the people had more than an hour of advanced notice that this thing was going to be within 30 miles of them.
So now we are going to require all businesses to release their workers any time there is a threat of severe weather within 30 miles of their location?
Seems like a totally reasonable and workable policy.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:57 pm to Indefatigable
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Explain why 50 workers isn’t just an arbitrary number that you came up with. Why do you hate workplace safety in places with less than 50 employees?
It is an arbitrary number, and I said as much. I don’t know why so many of you seem so butthurt over people thinking that business owners should either provide for their employees safety, or let them fend for themselves without repercussions.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:03 pm to troyt37
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business owners should either provide for their employees safety, or let them fend for themselves without repercussions.
How many times are you going to present the same false dichotomy?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:15 pm to Flats
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How many times are you going to present the same false dichotomy?
I guess as many times as it takes. They were supposedly told they couldn’t leave, the owner did nothing to provide for their safety. How is that a false dichotomy?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:24 pm to troyt37
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the owner did nothing to provide for their safety.
Because that's a lie. I'm guessing the owner created a safe business environment as defined by OSHA and building code requirements. Your complaint is that it wasn't as safe as you personally thought it should have been, but your personal opinion doesn't define "nothing to provide for their safety". This is not a digital issue; the work environment is not (safe)/(unsafe). It's analog, and for better or worse (usually worse) we've decided that government is the arbiter of things like building codes and OSHA. They hit that target on the sliding scale.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:28 pm to Flats
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Because that's a lie. I'm guessing the owner created a safe business environment as defined by OSHA and building code requirements. Your complaint is that it wasn't as safe as you personally thought it should have been, but your personal opinion doesn't define "nothing to provide for their safety". This is not a digital issue; the work environment is not (safe)/(unsafe). It's analog, and for better or worse (usually worse) we've decided that government is the arbiter of things like building codes and OSHA. They hit that target on the sliding scale.
And apparently it is your opinion that because the owner complied with the always infallible government requirements, they should be able to terminate anyone who doesn’t agree that their death trap is what is best for their lives and livelihoods. Gotcha.
ETA: Tell me, how often is it acceptable for a company to present a life or job ultimatum to employees in otherwise non-hazardous factories?
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:34 pm to troyt37
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And apparently it is your opinion that because the owner complied with the always infallible government requirements, they should be able to terminate anyone who doesn’t agree that their death trap is what is best for their lives and livelihoods.
See, you're lying again. I didn't call them infallible; in fact I said that's typically not a good idea, but that's what we have. Businesses don't create the rules, they play by them or they don't. Assuming this warehouse was playing by the rules, I'm not going to come in after the fact and claim that they didn't do enough just because a tornado hit them and it's Jeff Bezos and he's rich so frick him, as the OP is suggesting. That's emotion, not rational thinking.
Our society has reached the point where if something bad happens we simply MUST blame someone, usually to the tune of ambulance chasers getting rich. It's sick.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:42 pm to Flats
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Businesses don't create the rules, they play by them or they don't.
So you’re saying there is a law somewhere that says businesses can’t allow employees to leave and take care of their own safety, if they feel like where they are isn’t adequate?
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:48 pm to troyt37
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:52 pm to troyt37
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So you’re saying there is a law somewhere that says businesses can’t allow employees to leave and take care of their own safety, if they feel like where they are isn’t adequate?
No, but there absolutely is not a law on the books stating that businesses have to let employees do whatever they want any time severe weather is forecast for their general location.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:13 pm to Indefatigable
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No, but there absolutely is not a law on the books stating that businesses have to let employees do whatever they want any time severe weather is forecast for their general location.
So a job or life ultimatum is perfectly fine with you, and the business owner is the arbiter of what you can and cannot do, even if they choose to provide no more safety for you than what is required. Seems pretty shitty, but whatever. I’ve never worked a job that was worth my life.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:16 pm to troyt37
Troy, No worries. Anyone who would be stupid enough to hire you would not be smart enough to stay in business. You would be safe so you can then suck on some mommies tits.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:22 pm to Swazla
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Troy, No worries. Anyone who would be stupid enough to hire you would not be smart enough to stay in business. You would be safe so you can then suck on some mommies tits.
I guess insults are all you have at this point. I’m 23 years at my current job, and if I told my boss I as leaving because of storms, he would probably close the whole place and leave himself.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:30 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Do you really want to start making businesses responsible for acts of nature?
If you have Amazon type of money you need to be held accountable.
You start passing these laws and they apply to almost all companies. We already have way too much in place to supposedly protect everyone from every possible thing that could happen to them. News flash...it's not possible to protect everyone from everything. We already spend a ridiculous amount of time, money, and energy to do so. I'd rather go back 50 years when we had less regulation!
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:40 pm to BananaManCan
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LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I hate your username.. you come up with that all by yourself?
And he lives in Dallas and is a Braves fan. Sounds like a lot of confusion to me.
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