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re: 2016 Hypothetical: Ted Cruz vs Elizabeth Warren

Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Cruz is detested by a very large majority of the Human Race.



FIFY

If the republicans nominate this fool they have lost my vote forever. Cruze has zero chance in a general election, he just plain is not likable. Regardless of his views and politics he just plain can not resonate with voters. There is no group that I am aware of that self identifies with Cruze, and that is a huge hurdle. JMHO
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:46 pm to
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She has the same shot Kucinech had

VB, I went back up to the top of this old thread and read every post again. I have concluded that half of the posters on this thread have no idea what 'hypothetical' means.

I could start a hypo: "Who would win in an election between Bambi and Godzilla?" And most posters would say: They aren't gonna run.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:46 pm to
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She doesn't have a shot no matter how bad repugs want her to
Posted by Samso
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:49 pm to
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quote:
Cruz is detested by a very large majority of the Human Race.



Then why is he an elected official is he is so hated?

I'd definitely vote for Cruz over fricking Elizabeth Warren.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:52 pm to
Exactly! We have so many pressing problems and Cruz wants to curb the speech of gays.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:53 pm to
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Regardless of his views and politics he just plain can not resonate with voters

He won his senate seat by 16 points. I think the MSM has created a Cruz narrative that paint an unflattering portrait of him. That's a lot to overcome.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Cruz is detested by a very large majority of the Human Race. Then why is he an elected official is he is so hated? I'd definitely vote for Cruz over fricking Elizabeth Warren.


I'd vote for Cruz today over anyone except Rand. Hatred for a candidate who is on the right indicates who the left fears the most.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:55 pm to
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Cruz wants to curb the speech of gays.

How?
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:57 pm to
Shutting down gay pride parades.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I'd vote for Cruz today over anyone except Rand. Hatred for a candidate who is on the right indicates who the left fears the most.



So if Jay Leno runs, I fear him the most? Because I certainly despise the man.
Posted by GaBassFisher92
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:58 pm to
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PVnRT


Rand Paul voted against that bill because it reauthorized some provisions of the Patriot Act, which he sees as unconstitutional.

Justin Amash also voted against that bill:

quote:

But the bill was so weakened in behind-the-scenes negotiations over the last week that the government still can order—without probable cause—a telephone company to turn over all call records for "area code 616" or for "phone calls made east of the Mississippi." The bill green-lights the government's massive data collection activities that sweep up Americans' records in violation of the Fourth Amendment.


quote:

It's shameful that the president of the United States, the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and the leaders of the country's surveillance agencies refuse to accept consensus reforms that will keep our country safe while upholding the Constitution. And it mocks our system of government that they worked to gut key provisions of the Freedom Act behind closed doors.


LINK

Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Shutting down gay pride parades.

I don't know of a single gay pride parade Ted Cruz prevented. It would be interesting to talk to the man and see why he may oppose such parades.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:01 pm to
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So if Jay Leno runs, I fear him the most? Because I certainly despise the man.

Why do you fear Jay Leno? He seems pretty much benign?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Hatred for a candidate who is on the right indicates who the left fears the most.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:04 pm to
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He won his senate seat by 16 points.



Look at his district, Dianne Feinstein would have won by 16 points with a (R) beside her name.


quote:

I think the MSM has created a Cruz narrative that paint an unflattering portrait of him. That's a lot to overcome.


Amen, and he has not helped himself by coming off as a douchebag. This is his biggest problem LINK. He lags behind none and nobody in favorability polls. He is a waste of time for the Republicans and thet don't like him enough to rehab his image.
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:11 pm to
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I don't know of a single gay pride parade Ted Cruz prevented


If Ted Cruz shut down a Gay Pride parade there would already be a made for TV movie about it. Zach lived in a college suite with 7 other male students. Four rooms. 4 of the 8 were gay. We were all good friends. My room mate was gay. But Zach learned very early that gays lie. It's just what they do.

Later, in doing research on AIDS I found out just how much they lie institutionally. Like in the early 1990s when they said Reagan caused AIDS. Then in the late 90s they fabricated scientific research that predicted AIDS would go air borne and infect most heteros by 2000. They just make shite up all the time.


Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:13 pm to
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No.

She said she isn't running.

Present tense


And that's the angle the Boston papers are playing up. She never denied she would run, just repeated several times that she is not currently running.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:13 pm to
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Look at his district

He's a senator. Its statewide not by districts
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:16 pm to
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He's a senator. Its statewide not by districts



Sorry mental fart betwwen brain and keyboard, swap state for district and the statement is still the same.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:17 pm to
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I'd vote for Cruz today over anyone except Rand. Hatred for a candidate who is on the right indicates who the left fears the most.


I think the left would love it if the republicans nominated cruz.

he would be easy to differentiate vs HRC. Whereas with Jeb, it would come down to who is more liked. And HRC isn't going to win many likeability contests, although neither will anyone with the bush name.

I think your strategy is going to end up with comical results. I get it, sometimes I take the position the opposite of a person I don't like. But it has its faults.
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