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2014 has seen a large spike in the % of people delaying medical care due to cost
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:48 pm
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Gallup said that about 38 percent of middle class people with a household income of between $30,000 and $75,000 per year have delayed medical care because of costs, up from 33 percent last year.
Meanwhile, about 28 percent of households earning above $75,000 said they delayed care this year, compared to just 17 percent in 2013.
Despite expanding access to health insurance to millions of people, the survey suggests that Obamacare hasn’t tackled one of its major goals: making health care more affordable.
“Despite a drop in the uninsured rate, a slightly higher percentage of Americans than in previous years report having put off medical treatment, suggesting that the Affordable Care Act has not immediately affected this measure,” Gallup’s Rebecca Riffkin wrote in a blog post.
That’s likely because many of the plans sold on the law’s health exchanges tend to be considered high deductible plans, meaning they may have lower premiums but high out of pocket costs.
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Gallup findings
If there is anything these findings show, it is that the middle class is being shafted by this law. Not only do they not qualify for subsidies, but middle class families are often forced onto these high deductible plans.
ACA is basically an unfunded mandate for the middle class. The poor people get the subsidies (paid for my increased premiums on the middle class and the rich), the rich can afford the increased costs, and the middle class is shite out of luck.
I am so glad that some dems (Schumer) have seen the light.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just to be clear - you'd prefer it if cost wasn't a consideration for the insured?
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Doctors gotta make bank.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:17 am to SpidermanTUba
Just to be clear - government involvement in Healthcare is the root cause of problems which government 'solved' by adding more and more regulations until we got to the point where our healthcare system was declared to be in 'crisis' so our government had to step in and take it over. Understand how that works?
It was a process of government gaining control over you via delivery of your healthcare. It never was about improving your care or your access to it.
It was a process of government gaining control over you via delivery of your healthcare. It never was about improving your care or your access to it.
quote:Like a good libtard that was a typically lame attempt at deflecting the real point of it all though.
you'd prefer it if cost wasn't a consideration for the insured?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:54 am to wallowinit
quote:Yes, but most don't. Especially the tub of lard who first responded to me.
Understand how that works?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
High deductibles are screwing everybody. That is the plan. Make it painful
for everyone so we "beg" for single payer system.
for everyone so we "beg" for single payer system.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 6:42 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Gallup said that about 38 percent of middle class people with a household income of between $30,000 and $75,000 per year have delayed medical care because of costs, up from 33 percent last year.
So how many people is that? Does it surpass the mythical 7m new enrollees thanks to Obamacare?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bump... Anyone have the stats on how many millions of american this number equals out to?
How many Americans fall into the middle class 30k-75k number?
Just curious if 12% of that number is > than 7m
How many Americans fall into the middle class 30k-75k number?
Just curious if 12% of that number is > than 7m
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
We all knew that the ACA was a middle class frick job.
So is the present income tax system.
So is the present income tax system.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
A household income of $30,000 is considered middle class?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:58 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:My parent's high deductible plan was not allowed by ACA. Same deductible plan is now $1400 more a month.
Just to be clear - you'd prefer it if cost wasn't a consideration for the insured?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:25 am to Traffic Circle
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Doctors gotta make bank.
I can tell you at my wife's practice their collections from 2013 and 2014 are down about 5-percent. For example, in 2013 they recovered about 46-percent of what was billed and about 40-percent in 2014.
This law is not benefitting the doctor as much as the insurance companies.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:42 pm to Golfer
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My parent's high deductible plan was not allowed by ACA. Same deductible plan is now $1400 more a month.
Why do you hate women?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:52 pm to Federal Tiger
quote:What did they collect before? And how much of this is due to agreed upon discount rates with insurers?
I can tell you at my wife's practice their collections from 2013 and 2014 are down about 5-percent. For example, in 2013 they recovered about 46-percent of what was billed and about 40-percent in 2014.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:53 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Why do you hate women?
Guess my dad did since my mom and sister were on the plan! But he's a white male so that's a given.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Ouch. Kinda puts a dent in the argument that "free" preventative care and early detection of illness would bring in lots of savings.
2014 has seen a large spike in the % of people delaying medical care due to cost
quote:No. Paying for your own care isn't "being shafted".
If there is anything these findings show, it is that the middle class is being shafted by this law.
However, what it does show is that the Gruber-calculated "savings" don't really exist.
Thus, the "best" we can hope for is a larger pool to shift costs on. So.., maybe we are "getting shared" because paying for another's car involuntarily is indeed getting it rammed in.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:44 pm to Federal Tiger
But doctors still make big bucks from what I can see?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 5:12 pm to Traffic Circle
Most professions that require that much education have pretty good income standards. Are you against doctors making a good income?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:43 pm to Taxing Authority
Re: free preventative care - they say that but it isn't true. For instance, before the ACA, a screening colonoscopy was 100% covered by insurance, no matter what is found in the exam. Now, you can be scheduled for a screening, but if anything other than looking is done (like biopsies), it becomes diagnostic and the person has his deductible and co-pay to pay now. It's like this for mammograms too. Blows my mind that the whole point is prevention, and they charge if there is actual prevention happening.
And as far as making bank, reimbursement has dropped by 50% for some things. In addition, doctor's pay is only 6-8% of the total cost of healthcare. So go on and keep spewing the BS that the evil doctors are overpaid.
And as far as making bank, reimbursement has dropped by 50% for some things. In addition, doctor's pay is only 6-8% of the total cost of healthcare. So go on and keep spewing the BS that the evil doctors are overpaid.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:46 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Just to be clear - you'd prefer it if cost wasn't a consideration for the insured?
Straw man construction: started
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