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re: Restaurants that won't cook burgers medium rare

Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by JSM
Member since May 2013
647 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:12 pm to
Mr. Balls has a way with words that disarms every potential antagonist. A rare talent, especially since IRL he could wreak lots of havoc .
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:41 pm to
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Posted by LSUballs Mmmm, raw hamburger meat


Lol, no shite.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:01 am to
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grinding fresh in house daily


Better

quote:

frozen sysco patties.


safer
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:05 am to
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Mr. Balls has a way with words that disarms every potential antagonist. A rare talent, especially since IRL he could wreak lots of havoc .


He wants to beat up Mr. Mouton. I don't have background info on this nugget.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:18 am to
I order hamburgers rare from restaurants, if they won't do it I order something else. It usually doesn't come out rare, but sometimes it does.

Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:49 am to
I mostly order rare as well, and like Gaston notes, seldom does it come out that way. But it tastes pretty damn good to me. I typically don't judge you unless you're ordering well done.

On topic, I just assume if they aren't cooking to temp they are using a premade patty.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7516 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:35 am to
I work for one of the four largest beef producers in the US (Tyson, Cargill, National, JBS). Our food scientists will tell you that eating under cooked ground beef is taking your life into your hands. As others have said, e.Coli is a surface bacteria that is killed at 155F. When you grind beef, you transfer it into the center, and it won't be killed cooking to rare. E.Coli isn't like Salmonella... You won't get the squirts for a few days and then go on with your life. We.re talking colostomy bags and paraplegia and death. Especially if your immune system is compromised.

Grinding fresh in house doesn't help. It has nothing to do with the quality of the meat. Bacteria is bacteria and it can get onto the meat anywhere in the supply chain.

We invest millions in testing and food safety and the industry does an amazing job at keeping people from getting sick, but we're not perfect, and a few people/yr get very sick an/or die.

Do you trust that the pot head making $10.00/hr handled your beef properly? If not, I'd consider getting your burger cooked through.

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:36 am to
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dpd901


Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:05 am to
How do the French serve tartare every damn day to countless people for lunch and dinner and never have a problem? Ground, blended, chopped...you can literally get it at every cafe, so I'm not talking 5 star places. Maybe the espresso kills the bacteria?

If eating raw beef kills me then so be it. I've had a good run.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:14 am to
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If eating raw beef kills me then so be it. I've had a good run.


Amen, brother.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:17 am to
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If eating raw beef kills me then so be it. I've had a good run.


Amen, brother.



I'm not worried about the dying part. I'm worried about getting close to dying and living with the consequences.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:23 am to
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How do the French serve tartare every damn day to countless people for lunch and dinner and never have a problem?


Maybe beef sourced from non-industrial meat processing plants? There is a little French place downtown here in NYC that has the best boeuf tartare I've ever had.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:43 am to
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I'm not worried about the dying part. I'm worried about getting close to dying and living with the consequences.


E. Coli would probably be a pretty solid binge-diet, I could stand to lose a few pounds.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:00 am to
One of the things that no one is taking into account is the fat content.

A rare or med rare burger only makes sense if you have lean ground beef

The fat needs to be rendered for it to taste good. Unrendered fat in a burger is disgusting.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50140 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:05 am to
Just bears repeating...



"I work for one of the four largest beef producers in the US (Tyson, Cargill, National, JBS). Our food scientists will tell you that eating under cooked ground beef is taking your life into your hands. As others have said, e.Coli is a surface bacteria that is killed at 155F. When you grind beef, you transfer it into the center, and it won't be killed cooking to rare. E.Coli isn't like Salmonella... You won't get the squirts for a few days and then go on with your life. We.re talking colostomy bags and paraplegia and death. Especially if your immune system is compromised.

Grinding fresh in house doesn't help. It has nothing to do with the quality of the meat. Bacteria is bacteria and it can get onto the meat anywhere in the supply chain.

We invest millions in testing and food safety and the industry does an amazing job at keeping people from getting sick, but we're not perfect, and a few people/yr get very sick an/or die.

Do you trust that the pot head making $10.00/hr handled your beef properly? If not, I'd consider getting your burger cooked through. "



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Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13589 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:43 am to
A medium rare burger tastes like absolute shite. Why would you want cold uncooked ground beef in the middle? Its not the same as a steak so it makes no sense to cook medium rare, unless you want squishy, raw ground meat. Cooked beef has more flavor than raw beef, thats a given and you can keep a burger juicy as hell by cooking medium well. As someone already said, at 160 it still has pink in the middle.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37250 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:49 am to
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I order hamburgers rare from restaurants


Will you eat hamburger meat straight out of the package too? If you eat it rare it seems like a waste of time to bother with cooking it all.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81212 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:09 am to
I order med-rare. Most restaurants' version of med-rare (when it comes to burgers) isn't truly med-rare, and it generally comes out exactly how I'd like it.

I don't do rare, because I agree that I don't want a burger with cold mushy meat. But I like some pink.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70039 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:12 am to
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But I like some pink.


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:35 am to
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I order med-rare. Most restaurants' version of med-rare (when it comes to burgers) isn't truly med-rare, and it generally comes out exactly how I'd like it.


Same here. Most places it will come out more like a medium anyway. Burgersmith will occasionally send it out closer to rare, which is fine by me. I haven't died yet.
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