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re: Restaurants that won't cook burgers medium rare

Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:35 am to
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7511 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:35 am to
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Maybe beef sourced from non-industrial meat processing plants? There is a little French place downtown here in NYC that has the best boeuf tartare I've ever had.



Has nothing to do with it. I promise you we have better test and hold/quality control capabilities than some of the smaller packers.

E. Coli is everywhere, but it mainly occurs in beef production when the hide touches the meat when it's being removed.

Here's the thing: you may eat rare ground beef your whole life and never get sick. Or you could die at lunch today. Because the industry does a pretty good job on this stuff, it's pretty rare that outbreaks occur. But every year, there are a few cases.


All I can do is share with you what the best food scientists in the world say the facts and risks are from consuming rare ground beef. The great thing about America is you can choose to ignore that info and keep right on eating those rare burgers.

I personally prefer my burgers Med-Well. I had a burger at Company Burger the other day. It was med well, with some really good bacon, cheese and a fried egg on it... I'm pretty sure it was the best burger I've ever eaten.

I eat my steaks Med Rare.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:00 pm to
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Do you trust that the pot head making $10.00/hr handled your beef properly?
Or the Mexican with Hepatitis A with shite under his finger nails and forgot to wash his hands. There's a reason a Hep A shot is highly recommend when traveling to less developed countries like Mexico.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:21 pm to
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If you eat it rare it seems like a waste of time to bother with cooking it all.


do you say the same thing to people that eat steak rare? eating raw meat is not at all the same thing as eating rare meat. if you're not squeamish about eating lightly-cooked meat and you're aware of the (pretty minor) risk involved, why not?

i love how people are convinced that eating pink meat is a guarantee that you'll get food poisoning.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:31 pm to
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you can choose to ignore that info


or you can make an informed decision and choose to accept the risk. that doesn't mean you're ignoring it.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:42 pm to
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A medium rare burger tastes like absolute shite.


why are you people so mad that some people prefer their food prepared differently? i just don't get why there is so much anger in here about it. it's like you guys are deeply offended here.

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Why would you want cold uncooked ground beef in the middle?


medium rare is not cold, btw.

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27710 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:22 pm to
Always buy 96/4 burgers at store and cook medium rare to preserve what little fat is in it

Turns out great
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14187 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:26 pm to
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"I work for one of the four largest beef producers in the US (Tyson, Cargill, National, JBS). Our food scientists will tell you that eating under cooked ground beef is taking your life into your hands. As others have said, e.Coli is a surface bacteria that is killed at 155F. When you grind beef, you transfer it into the center, and it won't be killed cooking to rare. E.Coli isn't like Salmonella... You won't get the squirts for a few days and then go on with your life. We.re talking colostomy bags and paraplegia and death. Especially if your immune system is compromised. Grinding fresh in house doesn't help. It has nothing to do with the quality of the meat. Bacteria is bacteria and it can get onto the meat anywhere in the supply chain. We invest millions in testing and food safety and the industry does an amazing job at keeping people from getting sick, but we're not perfect, and a few people/yr get very sick an/or die. Do you trust that the pot head making $10.00/hr handled your beef properly? If not, I'd consider getting your burger cooked through. "


I did hear on that Commie Radio Network (NPR) the other day that about 3,000 people will die of food poisoning in the USA this year.

So I guess the good news is that it keeps the heard thinned out a little.



The two times I have had it I survived - just wanted to die for about a day.

One of the two times was from Hardees in Klingon, MS. Was forty years ago and I still can't eat a Hardees hamburger. Something about the smell brings back memories I can't deal with.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14187 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:29 pm to
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medium rare is not cold, btw.


My thought too.

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why are you people so mad that some people prefer their food prepared differently? i


This is the FDB. They get offended about Okra too if you ever want to start a fight.

And NEVER mention Vienna Sausages

This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:50 pm to
I'd trust the larger scale operations to handle the meat better than little local places.

We took one of our a prime graded steers to a local slaughter house and the fat went rancid because they couldn't handle a heavy fat carcass properly.

Considering there aren't that many USDA certified slaughter house at the local level, your meat is more than likely coming from those "industrial" sources.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38976 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:34 pm to
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Will you eat hamburger meat straight out of the package too?


Not without salt and pepper.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27710 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:39 pm to
You guys are pussies

Hamburger med rare and steak rare

Come at me bro. I'll take my chances.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:46 pm to
Do they let kids your age order rare steaks?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:47 pm to
Not eating pink, potentially contaminated, lukewarm ground beef is effeminate now?
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:50 pm to
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why are you people so mad that some people prefer their food prepared differently? i


This is the FDB. They get offended about Okra too if you ever want to start a fight.


BMC and Keurigs will get people going too.

This board can sometimes rival the music board with how people should like things.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81199 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:51 pm to
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96/4


I can't say I've ever seen 96/4.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14187 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:00 pm to
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BMC and Keurigs will get people going too. This board can sometimes rival the music board with how people should like things.


No - The hands down winner was the famous Chili Thread

You ain't seen nuttin like this!
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:07 pm to
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famous Chili Thread


I will have to look at that one. I missed it.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27710 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:37 pm to
Trader joes and kroger sell 96/4

I use it in chili and nobody ever notices. I think it takes just as good as 80/20 with half the calories. Don't like greasy chili

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