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re: Retail (legal) pot has zero health benefits due to cross breeding.

Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:38 am to
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Retail (legal) alcohol and cigarettes has zero health benefits.


Uh...red wine?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:46 am to
I smoke because I like to get baked and as medication for insomnia. Two birds with one stone. Or i could take ambient....That's probably safer right?
Posted by Karnac
Colorado
Member since Aug 2010
278 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 9:56 am to
Doctors may prescribe medical marijuana to treat:

Muscle spasms caused by multiple sclerosis
Nausea from cancer chemotherapy
Poor appetite and weight loss caused by chronic illness, such as HIV, or nerve pain
Seizure disorders
Crohn's disease
WebMD
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76301 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:00 am to
Red wine is no better than grape juice
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83558 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:02 am to
and?

Lays potato chips have zero health benefits as well
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:06 am to
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I thought the THC was what benefitted those suffering from pain and anxiety?



THC is pro-psychotic. CBD is basically "anti-THC" or an antipsychotic. THC is what gets people high and actually caused anxiety and the hallucinatory-like effects. CBD is what relieves anxiety. It doesn't get you high, though, so if you were to smoke a strain devoid of THC and high in CBD (without another Cannabinoid to take the place of THC, because the majority of them work like it. CBD is the only one I know of that works what it does), you would be calm, but probably also think that the weed sucked. CBD stands to benefit people medically. Not very much else in marijuana does.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:06 am to
Aw, shucks.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 10:08 am
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Red wine is no better than grape juice



This disagrees.

[img]www.bcmj.org/sites/default/files/june-09-core-1-figure-1.jpg[/img]
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:11 am to
Hey retard, you are lying in your title
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:12 am to
Good info, Doc. Thanks.

Personally, I don't like being around people who are drunk or high.

They're unpredictable.
They tend to make bad decisions.
They're functioning at an impaired mental state.
They're boring and stupid to everyone but themselves.

Just my own preference. If people want to get drunk or baked that's their business. I just try to avoid them.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:14 am to
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LSU1NSEC


So are you for or against legalization?
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2788 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:15 am to
I am sure they are trying even harder to avoid you.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

THC is pro-psychotic. CBD is basically "anti-THC" or an antipsychotic. THC is what gets people high and actually caused anxiety and the hallucinatory-like effects. CBD is what relieves anxiety. It doesn't get you high, though, so if you were to smoke a strain devoid of THC and high in CBD (without another Cannabinoid to take the place of THC, because the majority of them work like it. CBD is the only one I know of that works what it does), you would be calm, but probably also think that the weed sucked. CBD stands to benefit people medically. Not very much else in marijuana does.



This goes against almost everything I've read on the subject and if I wasn't on my phone I'd link a bunch of sources. Someone please take up the torch.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:16 am to
People that are high on marijuana are unpredictable? That is the dumbest shite have ever heard.

By the way I best you are a blast at a party.
Posted by DanW1
Member since Jan 2013
1103 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

So what does pot cure?

quote:

Probably sounds awesome to say it cures cancer when you're stoned. Sober minded folks find it humorous.


I'd say it cures about as much as Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Benadryl, Tums, inhalers, etc.

Hell 99% of all medicines probably cure nothing, they just relieve symptoms of illnesses while our immune systems do the work.

As for this...

quote:

Have the pharmaceutical companies been overlooking this medicinal gold mine for decades?


Pharmaceutical companies won't get paid when people grow marijuana at home, it's a much better deal for them to keep it illegal.

People can't produce Tylenol at home, they have to buy it.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66927 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I am sure they are trying even harder to avoid you.


Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23600 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:19 am to
quote:

So what does pot cure? Have the pharmaceutical companies been overlooking this medicinal gold mine for decades?

Nope.... they developed Dronabinol a LONG time ago... perhaps you should know a little more about the subject at hand, before talking shite...
Posted by jfturner212
1176 Bob Pettit Boulevard
Member since Nov 2004
5478 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:20 am to
Stoners are the most predictable people there are. Eat, sleep, chill, repeat.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:37 am to
Here's an [link=(www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22716160/)]NCBI abstract[/link] that's similar to my statement.


And I am also on mobile, so forgive my laziness, but if you read [link=(www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2931552/#!po=53.2653)]this one[/link] on mobile, hop to page 131 for 3 links confirming antipsychotic activity of CBD from 2000, 2006 and 2008 if I remember correctly.


What in my post are you disagreeing with? The lack of benefits from THC or the use of CBD? THC does have minimal benefit, it's just a shitty appetite stimulant (inferior to megace, among others which also don't make patients feel shitty...people who never smoked weed hate things like Marinol. People who used to enjoy it. It's a rule of thumb, not a fact) and an OK pain reliever (also not good compared to the host of narcotics out there, you can debate all day long whether the intoxicating effects of narcotics are better or worse than those of THC, but the benefit (pain relief) isn't there in THC to the point that, say I, would prescribe it for pain relief. There are better choices.) where there is a ton of room for improvement is on the psyche pathways, where there really isn't any room for pro-psychotics, medically. The antipsychotic side has potential to treat things as mild as anxiety and depression, as severe as bipolar and schizophrenia. THC isn't totally void of medical use, but it's not really all that good at anything other than getting you high. CBD, on the other hand, could potentially expand a list of very useful drugs in a new and novel way.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:45 am to
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I'd say it cures about as much as Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Benadryl, Tums, inhalers, etc.

Hell 99% of all medicines probably cure nothing, they just relieve symptoms of illnesses while our immune systems do the work.


Tylenol is a pain reliever. I believe it to be better than THC at prescription doses. The only real group that gets high doses are pregnant women and people with kidney problems, though. Ask a pregnant woman when she got pain relief how much it helps. It's very underrated due to its toxic liver effects. It also resets your brain's thermostat by blocking interleukin 6 to lower fever.

Ibuprofen modulated your immune system and cures inflammation as well as reduces pain.

Benadryl also stops your immune system's mast cells from releasing histamine. It modulates your immune system. During anaphylactic shock, it can be life saving (but it's not the go-to in a hospital setting. But at home in the absence of epi, give it!)

Tums- Calcium supplement and an acid neutralizer. Symptomatic treatment of an acidic stomach. This one doesn't really affect your body unless your low on Ca++. If you want to add things like Pepcid or Nexium, you actually can cure over-acid production. But I'll give it to you that tums doesn't cure it. Just treats it.

Inhalers- there are so many different kinds that do different things. One subset of them, inhaled corticosteroids, prevent asthma from recurring with decent success. It doesn't cure asthma, but it controls it very well.



I'm not sure I understand your claim. Most of what you listed modulates a faulty immune system.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 10:52 am
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