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Holiday 18th best PG according to NBA personnel rankings

Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30591 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:13 pm
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We asked 25 NBA folks -- a combination of executives, coaches and players -- to rank the point guards in the NBA from 1 to 30.


1. Russell Westbrook
2. Steph Curry
3. Chris Paul
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Damian Lillard
6. John Wall
7. Mike Conley
8. Kyle Lowry
9. Tony Parker
10. Jeff Teague
11. Derrick Rose
12. Goran Dragic
13. Eric Bledsoe
14. Ty Lawson
15. Rajon Rondo
16. Kemba Walker
17. Ricky Rubio
18. Jrue Holiday
19. Reggie Jackson
20. Deron Williams
21. Brandon Jennings
22. George Hill
23. Darren Collison
24. Brandon Knight
25. Isaiah Thomas
26. Patrick Beverly
27. DJ Augustin
28. Jarrett Jack
29. Mo Williams
30. Trey Burke

Discuss --

ESPN quote on holiday
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"He's one of the few guys that can guard the rest of this list. He's just OK offensively, but I really like him. He's got the feel and size, is a legitimate point guard and he can really defend." -- NBA executive
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32531 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:17 pm to
Should be 15-16 without injuries. I don't have a problem with it.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25810 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:24 pm to
Id put him at 14 right behind Bledsoe.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:34 pm to
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1. Russell Westbrook
2. Steph Curry
3. Chris Paul
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Damian Lillard
6. John Wall
7. Mike Conley
8. Kyle Lowry
9. Tony Parker
10. Jeff Teague
11. Derrick Rose
12. Goran Dragic
13. Eric Bledsoe
14. Ty Lawson
15. Rajon Rondo
16. Kemba Walker
17. Ricky Rubio
18. Jrue Holiday

None of these bolded are better than Jrue. Eric Bledsoe as 13 is a frickin joke. Dude is so overrated. Goran really isn't a true PG. Kemba can't even shoot and isn't that great defensively, and Rubio...well, the dude is garbage. Not sure why he is even on this list to begin with.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22809 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:45 pm to
Hasn't Holiday been roughly top 10 at his position in about every statistic when healthy? I could be wrong. He is just one of the guys that is just totally well rounded which is why he gets overlooked.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:00 pm to
He's better than Rondo too ppl need to stop living in the past with Rondo 8/8/5 41% FG
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71694 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:07 pm to
Like I said in the other thread
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I'm sure somebody will complain about trading two lottery picks for Jrue but if they didn't they would've spent one of those picks on #30.

Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9804 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:40 pm to
No MCW? I'm thinking he should be at least top 25. Also, Brandon Knight seems a bit low. The trade must have really hurt his stock. He was getting pub similar to Jeff Teague. I could see him borderline top 15.

I pretty shocked Holiday is still getting top 20 recognition. Missing almost 50 games two seasons in a row usually drops guys down. No one really knows how he is going to recover or if the injury will keep lingering. Sad situation. Guy has no trade value now until he shows he can stay healthy and produce close to what he was before..
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:42 pm to
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Eric Bledsoe as 13 is a frickin joke. Dude is so overrated.


He's a great defender and rebounder that draws fouls as a high rate.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30113 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:51 pm to
He's more of a combo guard than a PG to me...

but that's just my opinion of course
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:44 am to
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He's more of a combo guard than a PG to me.


I think that's fair. I also think you can say that about most of those guys. PG v SG distinction is largely gone. Can you create off the bounce for yourself and teammates? You're a pg. Harden, for example, could easily be on this list.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:52 am to
"Positions were only created for casual fans to follow the game"-Jalen Rose

It's ringing more and more true
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:05 am to
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Rubio...well, the dude is garbage. Not sure why he is even on this list to begin with.


Dude is living off of his reputation circa 2012.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:25 am to
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I think that's fair. I also think you can say that about most of those guys. PG v SG distinction is largely gone. Can you create off the bounce for yourself and teammates? You're a pg. Harden, for example, could easily be on this list.


While that is true to an extent, I think the term point is very relevant. Are these people that you trust to bring the ball up and effectively set up offense? Evans can create off the bounce, but the guy will also shut an offense down with isolation. Bledsoe is pretty similar. Dude is definitely not a true point.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4424 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:34 am to
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Goran really isn't a true PG.


Ummm...
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:22 am to
MCW might have the worst shot in basketball. Dude is a very good rebounder and passer, but man does his rotation on the ball stink.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:24 am to
Dude is a combo guard just like Bledsoe. Like I said, not a true PG. This list is crap.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127420 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:44 am to
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Dude is a combo guard just like Bledsoe. Like I said, not a true PG.

That is still a poor argument for those two not being better than Jrue.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:51 am to
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1. Russell Westbrook 2. Steph Curry



shitty list is shitty
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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15191 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:57 am to
The good thing is that Jrue is the player we need, regardless of his ranking on that list. AD is our superstar, we don't need a ball hog at the point.

He is also paid accordingly.
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