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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:04 am to
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:04 am to
That post on the OT was a collection of idiots.I started to post but I thought I would catch the stupid.

The statement "no more than 10% of your gross income" was a payment, not the car's value. So, If one made $48,000/year, their payment should not be more than $400/month.

The rule I like to follow is no more than 50% of annual income should be tied up in vehicles, boats, RVs, and "toys."

Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:43 am to
Don't just consider the cost to purchase...consider overall cost of ownership. A slightly more expensive, but fuel efficient vehicle may be a better buy than a cheaper but gas guzzling SUV or truck, if you have a long distance commute. Repairs, oil changes, tires (a hidden cost if the size/rating is unusual), etc drive up the cost of ownership for certain makes/models.

The best car is a paid-for car. I'm a fan of keeping a vehicle 10+ years...it can be cheaper to rent 2-3 times a year for long roadtrips if you're concerned about reliability as your car gets older. A weekly rental runs about $100 most times of the year....no need to rush out and buy new if most of your driving is short hop/local. Of course, regular maintenance/cleaning is key to making a car "last" this long. I know people who think that the answer to a dirty/dingy interior is to buy a new car....a thorough detailing is cheaper than a new car, too.

Needs vs wants. To me, an expensive car on a modest salary is the epitome of "hood rich".
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:10 am to
I see folks come in and trade a 2013-2014 because they "don't like it anymore"

Negative equity + Cost of new Vehicle=****

They have a monthly income of 2700.00 with a monthly note of 600+

Blows my mind.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I see folks come in and trade a 2013-2014 because they "don't like it anymore"

Negative equity + Cost of new Vehicle=****

They have a monthly income of 2700.00 with a monthly note of 600+

Blows my mind.


I think people who do that shouldn't breed.

Car dealers hate me.

This is how I buy a car. I am a brand loyalist. I have only bought Volvos for 13 years, and will only buy Volvos for life. If you don't have a late model Volvo on the lot, you will not earn my business.

I find vehicles that I want in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Memphis, NOLA, and all points in between. I fax every dealer a letter outlining that I am interested in XXXX vehicle that they have listed online with an offer price between KBB Good and Excellent Trade In Value. I ask that they fax me back any pertinent information and either acceptance of my offer or a counter offer with an explanation on why their vehicle is worth more than my offer.

Normally, about 20-25 of these faxes go out. I receive about 3-4 responses back, and buy the one that I like the most. The last one paid for my one way plane ticket to Atlanta and picked me up at the airport, and I drove the XC90 back.

Its not exciting, but I usually save several thousand dollars over what the local dealers in Jackson have the vehicles priced for. The reason I fax is that I do not give them any contact information like my phone number or e-mail. I still get calls from dealerships that I visited 15 years ago.

This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I have only bought Volvos for 13 years, and will only buy Volvos for life. If you don't have a late model Volvo on the lot, you will not earn my business.

13 years and you've bought Volvos plural? Hell, they're just getting broken in at that point. Mine is 12 years old and I just handed it down to my husband. He'll drive it at least another two years before replacing it with a slightly less used Volvo. (though I recently jumped ship into the diesel VW camp myself)
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:02 am to
Just three.

Two SUVs for my wife and a car for me in between.

Had a 2002 XC90 that I bought in 2003.
Bought a 2007 S60 in 2009
Bought a 2013 XC60 last October.





This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:07 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:08 am to
i am a big fan of not financing a depreciating asset. I realize not everyone can do that, but I think most people buy too much car.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:41 am to


quote:

Car dealers hate me.


That's easy. You leave out no variables in the equation. If our sales people couldn't handle that, we would find new ones.

A customer that does all the work for me is the greatest customer in the world.
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1112 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:47 am to
Lots of great information in here. I don't post much on here but I really enjoy reading

I'm obviously comfortable with my payment as we are not struggling. We have an entire separate salary that I am not even considering

The $1000 pmt is certainly comfortable for me but I really like the input around here. Will probably pay it off sooner. Trade in. Get a new car with value of trade and not have a note or have something minimal.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Car value is 100% of salary.


Sweet baby Jesus.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17183 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:04 pm to
Damn, my house isn't 13% of gross. I would say that is way too high, at least for me.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

The $1000 pmt


Damn.

Can you post a pic of this car? I hope it's at least something fun to drive.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24132 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:28 pm to
$1000 payment puts around 60k being financed at a low rate.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24132 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:30 pm to
Which is a lot if he is putting cash down but actually on the lower end of luxury without anything down. Around $52k before TTL gets you a mid grade luxury car.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:33 pm to
Buddy of mine just graduated. Might be making 60-65ish. Bought an Audi
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65533 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:28 pm to
I guess he didn't get the bottom of the line A3 for $27,641:

LINK

I think I'm done with new cars for personal use. Way too much depreciation in that first year or two.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:46 pm to
Different strokes guys.

It's all about "disposable income". I use quotes because generally car payment is not disposable. But, if you are meeting savings goals, paying bills, etc, as long as cars are within disposable range and allow you to live comfortably, why not? It's your money. Enjoy it. Some people travel, expensive hobbies, have boats, skiing, thousand dollar hunting trips, etc.

I enjoy my vehicles. It's a form of entertainment for me. I probably spend more than most. Could I drive a beater? Sure, but life's short and I'll enjoy myself a little. As long as my car payments don't take away from my financial goals, it's fine.
Posted by Big Data
Scotch Fan
Member since Nov 2007
2553 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:51 am to
Don't let these tightwads discourage you. You could croak tomorrow...

It's your money and your choice.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:01 am to
I've never bought a new car in my life. I never will. Accelerated depreciation still means you are spending cash, either immediate, or deferred. .55 per mile, or whatever the rate is now, serves to a large degree the same purpose.

It's the contractor model. Never pay taxes. Buy a $70K dualie. And it also needs to be said, never have any money or a net worth in most instances.

My personal belief is that at some point one needs to save money, and making money means one has to pay taxes.

I'm different though. I live in a $100K dwelling that I didn't pay $100K for. A realtor or mortgage broker would try to explain to me how I could afford a place 20X more. I tend to not take financial advice from people who rarely succeed financially. This would include an above average percentage of realtors, mortgage brokers and contractors.

Just the way I do it. To each their own.

Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:06 am to
$1083 vehicle note
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