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re: So I found a way to get free stuff from a site but I am not sure if it is legal

Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:16 pm to
I haven't figured the site out. Came close with a few but nothing to match the description in the OP
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

You are a judge, or at least an attorney, right?


I'm an attorney. That is not my field, and I am not your lawyer.

That said, I refer you to Aldo Raine:

Long story short, we hear a story too good to be true, it ain't.

Don't do it.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20473 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

it is a bonus for "referring a friend" and you would technically be referring yourself.





THIS is why you shouldn't be doing it.
Posted by Signal Soldier
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Member since Dec 2010
8178 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

quote:

it is a bonus for "referring a friend" and you would technically be referring yourself.

quote:

THIS is why you shouldn't be doing it.




What if you claim to have a multiple personality disorder?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

What if you claim to have a multiple personality disorder?


Then they will jail one of the personalities. don't think that is going to work out to well for the others.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25483 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

No, I will not post the name of the site


I like the Clymb too.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I'm an attorney. That is not my field, and I am not your lawyer.



I know you are not and would never take anything you said as legal advice, I was just curious because of your name.

From what I have read in order to be charged with fraud ALL 5 of these things need to be proven:

(1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result.

I put the first in bold because no false statement would be made. I would be signing up with email addresses that would be mine, I would be using my real name, real credit card and shipping to my real address. That is ALL of the info they ask for and none of it would be a misrepresentation. I would guess that makes it not fraud, I also know it isn't theft, so I don't know what laws it would be breaking.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3247 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:03 pm to
fraud bro
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:08 pm to
People are just now finding out about this site?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167099 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:09 pm to
Seriously though email it to me to look at. I won't order shite because, like you, I am not a fan of jail. I am just curious to read their legal disclaimers on it.

kaystout13@gmail.com
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:10 pm to
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They don't have anything in place to stop you from doing it, but is it legal?



Read the fine print. They almost definitely have an agreement where you, by clicking, confirm that you are referring a new person/are not continually referring yourself. It's usually a per person and/or household limit. Should you gloss over this and break the agreement (should it exist) as you propose, they'll probably find you out fairly quickly by seeing the number of addresses you are shipping to. When they see the offer has claimed $2k on one single address, they'll likely pursue legal action for breach of terms of service and look for a way to make you pay for what you've received beyond the amount they, in the fine print, allowed you. I don't know law very well or even pretend to, but I don't see that battle, should it make it that far, going well for you.


If there's no fine print in the agreement (which I very, very highly doubt), then you've possibly found a gold mine to exploit until they figure it out.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

(1) a false statement of a material fact
I'm referring a friend.

quote:

(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue
I know I'm not really referring a friend.

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(3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim
I'm intentionally doing this.

quote:

(4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement
Website is relying on my false statement.

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(5) injury to the alleged victim as a result.
Loss of $.

Just for arguments sake.

Posted by Paco_taco
Dallas, Tx
Member since Apr 2012
1359 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:20 pm to
Nordstrom rack has a referral deal like the OP is talking about. nordtrom rack invites
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:24 pm to
There is a federal computer fraud act. It is pretty broad.

If you are signing up as a "new user" and you are one person, I'd call that a false statement of material fact.

Plus if you drill down into the terms and condition of site usage, I'm betting they cover this.

It ain't worth twenty bucks, or twenty bucks times five, or twenty bucks times fifty. Period.

Maybe the thrill of getting one over on the site is a bonus for you. I get that. It still ain't a good idea.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:26 pm to
If you still think it's a good idea, then I refer you to Lawrence:

Watch out for the cornhole
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

There is a federal computer fraud act. It is pretty broad.

If you are signing up as a "new user" and you are one person, I'd call that a false statement of material fact.

Plus if you drill down into the terms and condition of site usage, I'm betting they cover this.

It ain't worth twenty bucks, or twenty bucks times five, or twenty bucks times fifty. Period.

Maybe the thrill of getting one over on the site is a bonus for you. I get that. It still ain't a good idea.


When you sign in you aren't signing in as a new user, they only ask you to enter your email and a password to "gain access". Also, you don't have to agree to any policies and they don't have a terms and conditions page. It is very odd and irresponsible on their part.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:30 pm to
Damn, that one is pretty good but they have terms and conditions you would have to read and they may track credit card #s or shipping addresses and limit them to one per account.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:40 pm to
You're trying awfully hard to justify it, but you're playing with fire, baw.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:41 pm to
Go ahead and load up on free credits. We see you really want to. frick it. Not like they will put you in pound you in the arse prison over it anyway.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:44 pm to
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