re: Saints shopping Curtis Lofton

How many decent lb do we have on the roster besides lofton?


Zero.

look I like Lofton OK but for over 6 million? F@ck that. He's a good run stuffer but if we had a better NT he wouldn't have to lead the team in tackles every year. He has no speed and zero cover skills.

Everyone wants to blame the talent, but no one wants to blame Vitt. The Saints have had good linebacker play in what, one or two seasons since he's been here? The fact is that with Vitt at LBer coach, this team will struggle at that position.

Without Vilma it fell apart, and much like others, a guy plays lights out other places, comes to the Saints at LBer, and is mediocre to bad. That isn't a coincidence.

Yeah goat that was kinda my point.

It isn't that I wanted to keep him. It's that I thought Payton and Ryan liked him too much to let him go. And how Payton kept going on a no leadership.

All other aspects think makes perfect sense, as would releasing Evans. It's time to move on but it's hard for me to trust them to do it.

They surprised the frick out of me releasing Harper and Moore last year(the others made sense) and trading Sproles. All things that had to be done but I didn't see them doing it(still think Harper and Smith are the ones we missed most from a leadership standpoint and Harper still had a role).

Type of guy we need in the middle .

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Vitt can take McMahon with him

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It just amazes me how the guy coaches the position that is consistently the worst on the team his entire tenure here with maybe 1 year as an exception, yet has untouchable status.

Hawthorne outplayed Lofton last year, and both Haralson and Humber are good run stoppers.

Problems is ALL of our LBs are good run stopper that can't cover worth a damn. We need to get rid of all but two of them(Haralson and Humber would be my keepers; cheap and capable).

Not to say he isn't the problem or at least part of it, but I think we may have only drafted one LB in the 3rd round and none in the first two since he's been here.

That is definitely part of the problem. It's time we quit trying to plug the hole with mid level free agents (outside Vilma) and actually draft some round one and two LBs. Or sign a FA stud.

Lofton never played lights out with us or Atlanta. He's always been a tackling machine in the middle but that's it. Most of the fans were happy he was leaving because he sucked in coverage, until they found out we got him.