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re: Saints shopping Curtis Lofton

Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:40 am to
Posted by ELT
Member since Nov 2012
208 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:40 am to
WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THEY DOING?
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
838 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:24 am to
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Lofton has been okay but he started to fall off about half way through last year it seemed like. Course, it didn't help that the interior D-line had a off year.


He was wearing a shoulder brace. Played over 3,000 defensive snaps in 3 years more than half of them he was hurt.

Signed a $54 mil deal with $28mil guaranteed with Byrd and we got 4 games before his season was over from a practice injury.

Galette is nothing but problems and didn't produce at all last year and we're on the hook for $16 mil with no way out.

We're going to pay Cory White $1.5 million for Christ sake. If they don't cut him we might as well throw in the towel.

Get your paper bag ready!
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 10:26 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:27 am to
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Galette is nothing but problems and didn't produce at all last year 


You're an idiot
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64300 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:27 am to
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Get your paper bag ready!


Just you.

Make sure you show up to the first home game wearing it like a boss.
You'll have a great time I'm sure. Treated like a hero from everybody.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6328 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:30 am to
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Galette is nothing but problems and didn't produce at all last year and we're on the hook for $16 mil with no way out

WTF? He produced more sacks and pressures than both Hicks and Cam Jordan combined last year. I've been one of Galette's biggest critics, especially in relation to how he fits into our scheme, but I can at least see his value as a pure pass rusher.
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You're an idiot

I second that.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
838 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:53 am to
Our problem is the middle of the line, guys were stepping up in the pocket with no pressure, but Galette is not worth the headaches he creates for that price. I'd trade him in a heartbeat if I could get someone in the middle for that money.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6328 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:02 pm to
I never agreed with his price tag either. As armchair GM, I thought the current contract was for too long of a duration and on the top end of the pay scale of what he should have been offered. I would have been fine with his current base annual salary if the total contract was for a shorter duration (like a 1 or 2 year deal).

That being said, he was still one of our most productive guys (at their respective roles) on defense last year. He comes with baggage, the organization should have known that prior to signing the contract. They only have themselves to blame for being stuck at this point.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:07 pm to
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but Galette is not worth the headaches he creates for that price. I'd trade him in a heartbeat if I could get someone in the middle for that money.



His price is actually pretty damn cheap at around $8.7 million a year.

And it isn't smart to fix one hole by creating another.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:03 pm to
Well Reys of the board....

quote:

@AdamSchefter: One potential free agent off market: Bengals and MLB Rey Maualuga reached agreement on a 3-year deal, per source.

m.twitter.com/AdamSchefter
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
838 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:44 pm to
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His price is actually pretty damn cheap at around $8.7 million a year.


But they set themselves up for a perfect storm this season with a massive cap number and no way to unload him when trouble popped up.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:47 pm to
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But they set themselves up for a perfect storm this season with a massive cap number and no way to unload him when trouble popped up.



That deal is good for the Saints. We've been burnt too many times by not locking up our best players until their contract expired.

He's absolutely worth more than his average salary on the open market IMO. Even with the legal trouble, he's still one of the better value guys on the team and was our best player on defense last year (due to Keenan's injuries)
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:51 pm to
I think he's speaking more from the fact we can't outright cut him because of the way it's setup. Our options are keep him and convert his bonus (which was fully the intention before all the mess) or trade him.

So if we can't trade him we are stuck with him for another 2-3 years with him knowing we didn't want him and us not wanting him.

And that fact, all with his legal issues and possible suspension, means we likely will get poor trade value.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:53 pm to
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and possible suspensio


I really think there is less than a 1% chance of a suspension

I also disagree with the Saints trying to trade him for what you mentioned.

I'm honestly hoping another team doesn't trade for him, unless they give us a high draft pick which is unlikely
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:00 pm to
I didn't think they'd get rid of him either, but with the report of Payton wanting him gone and the news of him being on the traditional block, it seems legit.

And I just checked and if we kept him the earliest we could cut him without losing cap would be 2017. And it's not pretty then either as we would have $8.9m in dead money with only $100k in savings.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:11 pm to
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it seems legit.


Agreed

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And I just checked and if we kept him the earliest we could cut him without losing cap would be 2017


Which at the time, and IMO, still a good thing. That price tag for pass rushers is going to continue to rise.

What do you think Wilfork will demand? Would be a hell of a piece for us
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:17 pm to
My issue isn't with the price tag or wanting to keep him. I always wanted him to stay and knew we had a great deal.

My issue is now that works is out he is on the trading block, if it doesn't happen we are going to have to put hurt feelings aside for two years and I'm just not sure it could be done. This could mess up and already tenuous locker room.

Edit:
On Wilfork I don't think he gets big money at his age unless a team like Denver is trying to get over the hump and over pays. It's possible he could be in our range. I'm thinking two years for about $6m total would be his cap..
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:21 pm
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